The Energy Gold Rush? Ambit Energy Is A Scam and Fraud, But Not In The Way You Think It Is
(this site is NOT affilliated with Ambit Energy, it is a private opinion site)
So you are looking to join Ambit Energy as a consultant? Are you wondering if your $400 investment (or whatever they charge now) is going to be worth it?
Well, statistics say that you are better off investing that money in a simple savings account because you will fail.
That’s right, the scam that is Ambit Energy is the fact that whomever is talking to you about it is getting you all hyped up on all the money you can make. They are selling you a dream. But that dream comes true for very few people. In fact, the person who is trying to sell you on Ambit Energy is probably making nothing either!!!!!!
Let’s see anyway, I bet you’ve heard things like this:
–natural gas and electricity are the perfect products because they are habitually used
–this is a ground floor opportunity
–natural gas and electricity are the new gold rush
–everyone uses electricity and natural gas so everyone needs what you are offering
Am I pretty close?
Well, guess what dear friend: 95% of you who read this will fail. Wanna know why? The reason you will fail is because you actually value your family and friendships.
That may have thrown you for a loop so read it again: The reason you will fail at Ambit Energy is because you truly value your friendships and family. In other words, you are not willing to take advantage of family or friends in order to advance you so-called “Ambit Business.”
Using Guilt On Family And Friends To Advance Your Ambit Business
You see, once you sign over your money and become an Ambit consultant, they will tell you to go get your first couple of customers. Those should be your close friends and family and if they should refuse to sign up as your electric or gas customer, then you tell them “well, our relationship is gonna change then since you won’t trust me on this.” ( I personaly heard this statement being made by a Texas consultant, a pastor, on a couple of occasions)
Therein folks, is the Ambit Energy Scam! The scam is in the Ambit leaders ability to shame you into taking advantage of friendships to advance yourself in the business. Have you ever heard the term “never mix business with pleasure?” …yeah, that is a true statement. It’s a bad idea. So the sense of the word “scam” is a different interpretation then what you are used to!
Convince A Stranger To Sign Up For the Ambit Energy Dream: Fat Chance!
But there is still more to the Ambit Thing… how about after you have sifted through all your friends and family and made them feel guilty or uncomfortable? Then what? Are you gonna go out and knock on doors in your neighborhood? I doubt it!
You see, after you have scorched all your friendships, the next thing is to talk with strangers, and that is a very very tough sell, especially when you really can’t offer them anything. In fact, you have to get them to fork over $400 too and try to live a pipe dream.
Folks, this is the trouble with ALL multi-level marketing schemes. They prey on your hope of something better. The problem is that less than 5% of people who ever sign up for some bull shit MLM thing every make their money back to break even. And you see, the rish assholes at the top count on the fact that there more and more suckers out there who will kick in the $400 and get a couple customers before becoming discouraged and quitting.
Only Already Established MLM Leaders Make Any Money With Ambit Energy
This is my opinion…
The final part to the Ambit is the fact that most of the top earners already were involved in some previous MLM pyramid before coming to Ambit. You can check it out. All of them were in some other thing that “just wasn’t working out” and decided to come over to Ambit. What does this tell you?
It tells me that in order to be successful in Ambit Energy, you need to be able to bring an army of seasoned MLM workers with you. It is nearly impossible to build an Ambit business with no MLM experience or previous contacts.
With all that being said, I do believe that Ambit delivers on what they promise their customers and they do pay their consultants their earnings in a timely fashion. The Ambit business is sound (for now) and financially viable.
The issue is the fact that YOU will not succeed in it. You just won’t, so save your money. Trust me!
UPDATE Feb 2009: oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention there is some ass-wipe in Texas who is an executive consultant that will try to sell you an “energy gold rush” website for a monthly fee as well. The big honcho above him, the founding consultant, sends out regular emails to the rank-and-file members encouraging them to invest in an Energy Gold Rush site. Kinda funny that you’d need to buy this third party website in order to be successful. Of course, I can’t seem to find any of his client sites (subdomains) ranking anywhere in the SERPS. In fact, the root domain only has 4 backlinks in yahoo site explorer and one is his now-dead personal blog! ha! another scam! (SERPs = Search Engine Results Pages) On another similar note, if this executive consultant is making so much money, why doesn’t he just give away the ENERGY GOLD RUSH sites for free?
Tags: ambit energy complaints, ambit energy fraud, ambit energy scam, energy gold rush
I am sitting here laughing at your little blog as I look at what my pay check with Ambit is this week. Funny thing is I see you put this out on Dec 25 2008 and I signed up as an Ambit Consultant at 9:55PM on Dec 26th. I got my first check Jan 2nd for $200 and just 7 weeks into the program I have made $1570 and I just won a contest for signing up the most MC’s in a months time and that payout is another $1000.00. I made Regional is 20 days. And my 10 friends who have joined the business with me are all on the same track and the only ones who have not made their money back yet are the ones who signed up this week. With that said, I am going to use your word and say that an asshat like you who would post such a lie, as you did, and make people think twice about following a dream, doesn’t deserve any success. The only people who will not make money doing this job is one that is lazy. You can’t expect to pay in and sit back and wait for a pay check, which is probably what you expected. You are either lazy or you have posted this blog to try and advance yourself in whatever it is that you are doing.
Hi SHerry Neff and thanks for stopping by my little blog. I am glad you are doing well with Ambit. I wish you all the best and congratulate you on being part of the 5% who do make it.
For the rest of you reading this, the Ambit Scam is in the fact that people like SHerry will tell you how wonderful the business is knowing full well that you ain’t got the goods to succeed!
Ambit Energy.
I have not even joined Ambit “Yet”, and your logic appalls me. It makes me wonder what MLM you were involved in that made you so negative.
It is redicoulous to assume that one will lose all their friends and good relationships with friends and family because one wants to tell them about an exciting opportunity. Furthermore, the opportunity makes sense, whether or not one or hundreds of individuals choose not to participate. You are also wrong that a stranger could not be convinced to join in. There are many, perhaps millions of individuals that would like to find something to generate other income. It might only be for extra income, or possibly a career change. I agree that it can be more difficult to approach a stranger about it, but without a lot of effort, I can think of many ways to do it.
You referred to the “Rich Assh*les”. Do you have something against being rich, or just bummed because you aren’t? You sir, have taken nothing but your opinion (no facts), to call this opportunity a scam. And you make the idiotic statement that it is a scam because Ambit leaders want people to tell thier friends and family about it.
Who are you to tell anyone they do not have what it takes to succeed at this or anything else they may want to try. I agree that no one is going to get rich with this without great effort – so what? That is true of just about every path to riches short of winning a lottery. Some do not care about getting rich, they may only want to make a little extra money or pay less for enegry. As for the cost, most of us waste enough money on frivoulous entertainment to cover the cost in a short time. I don’t believe I saw anything like a typical business franchise fee that might be .5 to 2 million dollars. I didn’t see a need to invest several thousand dollars in startup inventory. What do you expect ..to get rich, with no cost whatsoever? If anyone knows of a business opportunity that has the potential of generating a respectable amount of income, that cost absolutely nothing to get started, and requires no time and effort to succeed – that sir is a pipe dream!
Hi John Wallace, and thanks a bunch for stopping by to comment on my review of the Ambit Scam or Ambit Fraud.
you are exactly correct that these are just my opinions about Ambit Energy opportunity in Illinois, Texas and New York. I also hear that Ambit Ohio is kicking off as well.
I still must take issue with the fact that I was told by a senior Ambit Energy Leader that I should call my closest friends and ask them to join as my customer, and if they refuse, I am supposed to tell them, “our relationship is ow going to change since you refused my offer.”
That is the crux of my issue with the Ambit Scam.
Well, you “supporters” must be total f-ing morons? Hey, hit me up here I am Amway “Consultant” I’d love to show you too how to make great $$$ in your extra time. Oh, how about hosting a candle party for friends and family at your house this weekend? Or hey, anyone for a Tupperware party?
Ask yourselves this simple folk….if it’s too good to be true it probably is. With this level of stupidity to fall for such a thing this country on dunces could be taken over by Uncle Rico and Kip selling poly-laminate thirty-four piece sets with the miniature wooden ship. God it’s painful to be witness to this. Wake up and smell yourself people, when all of a sudden did you folks become experts in the utilities and commodity markets?
Oh, if anyone is interested in hosting a Tupperware party, candle party, of becoming an Amway rep please email me at stupidamerican@moron.org
Good luck all!
GUYS–the crux of the Ambit Scam and Ambit Fraud is in the fact that you are to go and ask your family to sign up for Ambit Energy, and if they refuse, then you are supposed to rebuttal with “well, then, our relationship is going to change now since you won’t trust me with this business.”
THAT is the Ambit Scam!!! I cannot believe that someone would sit and let some fat pastor from Texas who scams his congregation tell you to risk the relationships in your family in order to make some money with switching someone’s electric or gas service.
dude- awsome way to put it- Con-ed has been around for decades and though they seem to raise costs here and there, they ultimately provide excellent service. How someone can just come up to you say hey weve been friends for a long time and here buy this no name energy that will save u what $10 a month maybe 20 is ridiculous. I tptally agree with your logic, and wouldnt be surprised if ambit was issuing letters to ppl like you to defend themselves similiar to sherry neff…thanks
I agree with both sides it may or may not be a scam.It is a new company that no one knows about but on the up side maybe you can make money off of it.they have a presentation coming up and im gonna go tomorrow and i will let you guys know what i think about them after that.
Wow, this is funny stuff. Allyn, not every knows what they are talking about. Not even an Ambit big shot.
I would never tell a friend or loved one that our relationship would change if they didn’t come aboard with an opportunity. Actually, friends and family are the last people you should talk to, unless you know that they would listen to you. We all know how our family and friends feel about us, so make your own decision on that.
I’m sorry that someone told you that, but it isn’t right.
However, Ambit Energy is not a scam in itself.
I haven’t joined yet, but I’m getting ready to. You see I’m a part of the new wave of internet marketers who understands that building a business is about building relationships.
It is not your opportunity, your product/service, or compensation plan that makes you successful. It is all about you and how the person you are communicating with perceives you. Are you a leader that can help them to be successful with Ambit? Can you provide training and support? Do you have a duplicatable system that they can teach others?
It is all about you. People don’t join opportunities, they join leaders.
Allyn be a leader and people will follow you.
best of luck to you with Ambit Energy Gerald. I love how you can defend something you are not even joined with yet, but, to each his own.
The other problem with Ambit Energy is that the income is not passive. You have to continue whipping the asses or your horses to keep producing or your Ambit business will die! No thnks!
Mr. Allyn, I am sorry that you were mislead by someone in your past. Bitterness will only bring you down in life. We are having fun in our business adventure with Ambit. We have never been told the nasty things you were told. My relationships with my friends and family have only gotten stronger because of the business and only one of them has joined. I was able with this business to re-ignite relastionships that were lost over time and distance. My family was involved in the past with some of the companies you mentioned. I never made money with them. I only became broke. With this business I have already made money and am happy. I will not throw dirt at what you do in life. If that is what you are having fun at, do it. We will do the same. However your facts are somewhat obscured by the bitterness you hold towards the person who talked to you. Was it because he was a pastor or a control freak in life? Please let go of the past and move forward in your life. Whatever you choose may God bless
Go ahead Lloyd, keep your head up and keep making money with Ambit. I want you to come back to the Ambit Scam site when the thing goes bandrupt in 5 years. I will still be here and I will help you earn some real money, but not with Ambit MLM scams!
AL
Marketing is done sucessfully with a positve attitude.MLM is a gret compensation plan. Even if the system eventually fails, you could make good money while it is available. People either do or they don’t.The people who do are always better off than the ones who don’t when it comes to production. Produce your income, stop trying to discourage others. Every word that speaks encouragement will build dreams, negative words destroy dreams.
you crack me up, really. The Ambit Scam isn’t about negativity. the problem is that AMBIT distributors tell everyone how successful they can be and how easy it is when the truth is that 95% fail! They whip you like a mule, tell you to prey on your family and friends, and if you don’t make it, they tell you that your commitment level wasn’t there. That’s why Ambit is a Scam!
I called Nicor in Illinois. I asked about Ambit. They replied.
“We sell gas at a government regulated price, I can’t see you paying any cheaper with a different company. We are aware of Ambit, if you choose to buy from ambit you still pay us and we pay ambit their share, although how they get gas cheaper than we do I haven’t the slightest”
Ambit is bullshit, I am a Regional Sales Manager, I know hows sales works. The key to motivating staff is to blow smoke up their asses. “C’mon guys you can sell 10 units today EASY” even when we know 6 is average. Difference? We pay 10.00$ base plus 15% commission. Also, our employees work for us and do not have to pay us to get hired.
I was approached by a business associate to get involved in the Ambit. So I was told that to make money I could just be a customer and save 1% on my energy cost each month guaranteed. If I wanted to be a consultant I would pay $400 and $29.00 a month for a website. I am a CPA by profession and have not marketed through the newspaper in years. I rely on word of mouth and the fact that I have beat a few IRS examines for my clients. I don’t want my relationship with the business associate to change so I wanted to find out if his promise of 1% guaranteed saving was at least mentioned. The only problem I have with the program is that I burned oil and gas to heat my home for 25 years. When my system is replaced I expect to convert to geothermal. My gas bill saving and oil should pay off the installation in 6 years based on current projections and energy credits. I was even offered his services for 6 months to switch to the program. This alone is worth the switch if I am going to get the savings requested too. Can someone tell me the average saving on there gas bill in Illinois. Also, representations was made that Ambit has locked in gas prices for 15 years with BP Oil. This is how they can sell gas for less than Nicor’s regulated price. Also, in the down turn in the economy I wonder how long it will take regulators to get back into the game and lower prices further. Any thoughts on these points. I will feel bad taking my assocated up on the offer of 6 month services but it will teach one of us a lesson. I would never offer anybody a free tax return.
All of you are deluded. Ia m an energy consultant independent working for my self not Ambit. You guys no nothing about where the money is nor the market you work in. Get a real job working for an energy co.. Then you can learn to be independent.
There is no really competitive savings for commercial biz w/ Ambit in the market locations they exist. Not even, if Ambit was commercial.
That s precisely why it is a poor choice. residential is submetered whereas commercial have real usage profiles and are usually not submetered.
Who uses more you grandmas house or a huge chemical manufacturer.
Add on that you have to pay for a membership to sell something that really does not offer much savings (def not a game changing savings) Besides in this environment now energy prices are really low. There is little no saving o be passed on per KW, and residential accounts use no electricity.
You would have to believe in stuff like the efficacy of Obamas Stimulus plan to believe in Ambit–to draw an analogy. My co. represents all the commercial suppliers so that is a subjective as you can .Write to me if interested in working for me. We have been in biz for many years and are the go to people. You’d get a sizable referral fee based on the size of the account for getting a commercial customer to get their last months bill so we can take a look at it. We have to clients whose energy we manage.
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Just for the record, Ambit Energy does not work with business/commercial natural gas or electric. they only work with residential. and 1% savings in Illinois natural gas is crap!!!!!!! Don’t you get it? The scam of Ambit is that you talk your family and best friends into using a service to save 1%. what a waste!
Is there a switching fee back to Nicor gas (Illinois) if I take my assocate up on switching to Ambit? I am thinking about switching since I was told it would not cost me anything to switch back.
Hey Ben, if your friend told you that there is no fee to switch back, then why are you here getting a second opinion? Do you not trust your friend? Is your friend pressuring you to be a part of the Ambit scam and you are having second thoughts? Hmmm
seriously im with allyn, why waste time and money to save 1%..? please thats like the cost of the evevlope and stamp they send you your bill with.. just another P.O.S triangle scam..Ive never done MLM shit, but i know pleanty about it. so dont think im bitter and negitive. im smart! wake up pepole. Get real jobs and stop selling shit to people when times are tough. Oh wait, but your really not selling anything.. its free..thats what they tell you.. ok nothing is free..invest your money and you will become wealthy.. ha! have you people not learned. Look at what hapeend with those people and Bernie Madoff ?. and they say they have a government contract to deregulate energy cost to help the economy.. ok well why only in a few states.. dont they want to help all poeple.. can you say CROCK? do your research outside the AMBIt website. look up these CEO’s and dig deeper. you’ll see.. just a matter of time
My wife was talked into joining Ambit and switching our energy provider by a friend. Our bills shot to $1,500 a month in the summer and avg’d over $800 in the winter – marketdly higher during both seasons years prior. Wasn’t until we complained of high bills that our bill was lowered by 50% back to original levels…no wonder people like Sherry are laughing…
Screwed was that a billing error or did they say cost spiked and you actually saved money?
hey you bitter little b@#%h sounds like you never got off your lazy ass to actually make any money hahahahahhahahashahahahahahaha
see above folks @michael sella: this is the exact type people who are involved with the ambit energy scame.
yea Allyn your right. oh poor mikey too bad you cant make it in the real world so you have to screw people over to make you happy.. you must have mommy issues or daddy never hugged you enough!
I’ve had a lot of experience with MLM’s and I see what Ambit is doing. What I would like to know is why do you have to pay over $400 up front? And is it true that people’s savings would only be 1%? As for Allyn, I don’t think you should get pissed off at the guy that told you to break away from family/friends, and I do know that you can’t just sit on your ass and expect cashflow. The most important thing is, is this actually a marketable product, or just to bring in more consultants to make money off one-another like most basic MLM scam’s. Thank you in advance for any information.
Adam, it is a scam in the fact that it is just the same crap as any other MLM. You are not really saving people any money, and you are taking advantag of friends and family at the same time. You also have to continually whip the asses of the people in your downline and MAKE them produce.
I will go ahead and reveal more of the AMBIT SCAM:
You have to pay $20 per month for your website! Are you freaking kidding? You can host 100 websites per month for $20! They rip you off with a “suite” or replicated BS sites that DO NOTHING other than serve as a point for drones to sign up! I’d rather you just give me an affiliate link and charge me $20 one time for that!
The $400 you pay to get involved pays your upline. that is how they make money.
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Hello!!!
God bless you all!!!
I came across your blog and read all your comments. I was presented with the AMBIT business opportunity almost a year ago, joined and worked in it part time as a person who didn’t know anything about this industry I tried many many different things but thanks to the constant training from AMBIT discovered that the key is consistency with adjustments and of course take action, they taught me how to be a mentor with servant’s heart, how to build relationships instead of harassing people how to learn to LISTEN instead of talking about AMBIT…A TEAM effort… now I understand that it requires effort but this effort worth I’m not wasting my time and my strengths and my charisma ehehe with AMBIT I get paid for what I did once, it takes time? yes, true it takes a lot of effort? yes but once you have accomplished at least the minimum requirements to qualify for the residuals everything gets easier, I do believe in AMBIT because I don’t care how much money people make out of me … I’m helping people and the money of course always follows that, I am a Regional Marketing Consultant with AMBIT Energy and working full time since January 2009, my kids love me being at home and my greatest priority is to build people, I do keep taking calls from customers from home (I don’t knock doors) never have. And all I can say be less selfish be a giver like AMBIT leaders teaches us. Oh and I don’t pay for my electricity
I went to a presentation on Ambit tonight and came away motivated. It seems like a way to make a second income with a little motivation. I have to say that I disagree with most of the negative comments. Not once was there any mention of “don’t you trust me” or if you don’t join this could affect our relationship”. I’m in sales so for me this sounds pretty easy. If someone doesn ‘t seem interested you just move on to the next person. I’m in foods sales and visit 10-15 restaurants a day. Even if I can only get 1 person from each restaurant to join it still gets me free energy bill every month. That’s a savings of $200-300 month. So my $450 “start up” fee is payed for. I do agree though $400+ is alotta money along with $25 mnth for a website. The key with this type of pyramid shit is motivation!
Dave, I don’t mean to be rude, but how would you boss feel if he knew you were selling AMbit while on his time? and, of course they didn’t tell you the full boat about the scam of ambit at an intro meeting. just wait, you will hear it.
…first of all it’s my time not company time. I don’t get payed hourly, I rely on 100 percent commission. I’ve been with this company for 6yr and have produced double digit increase in sales every year. How would your boss feel if he knew you were on message boards bashing people all day? All you have to do is mention a web site and then have them call you after hours. I’d rather loose $400 in a business venture than spend 100k’s and loosing it all. The stock market blows, I sure know I’m not investing it there. So if you know it all about Ambit tell my what they don’t tell me!!!
I was actually looking to cancel my monthly subscription with Ambit, not because I do not believe it works, I have seen it for myself, but because the time required to do this to make it work initially is not in me to do at this time. I may find it to do again later, but for now it is just not happening. I did figure out what this Ambit program is all about, to be successful. Knowing the founders does build faith in the founders, and to become successful, you do have to build a large team. MLM has its advantages, and disadvantages, just like any business venture. There are goofballs that do enter it, and do some really stupid things, and they do get weeded out eventually, and hopefully without to much collateral damage. It is interesting to note, that with any MLM organization, you do have to start somewhere, and if one opportunity lives out its benefit, how much more easier is it to bring that MLM organization into another venture, you already have the structure in place. This is what happened with many of the founders in this Ambit Energy Venture. It made them almost instantly wealthy, and not that they weren’t already successful, but again, they did start somewhere. What is really cool about this whole MLM system, is that it does require a positive synergy between peiople, supporting each other, and one’s success adds to anothers. It has a higher principle of living involved. It is true, our society has been more of a dog-eat-dog business environment, but where I see this MLM opportunity work, or any other MLM opportunity work is when you are able to offer people an opportunity to be free to choose their own level of commitment, and reap the rewards of that effort. It is also true, that MLM is not for everybody, and those that fail at it have a tendency to put blame on others, rather than their own selves. You do not need to blow any smoke up anybody’s skirt with Ambit. But even as real an opportunity as it is, not everyone can understand it, or realize it. As a result, not everyone can take advantage of it, and usually when that happens, that person comes off feeling they have been taken advantage of. I wish the best to anyone that gets involved in this company, it is solid, and has solid potential to change you for the rest of your life. The people whose lives have been changed, are almost like the people that got unplugged from the Matrix, and became self-aware, and learned independence from the Matrix, and how to use the Matrix to their advantage. Interesting analogy. May the greater Peace abide with you all.
honestly, it’s partly luck. i own a few dozen leased homes and charge a fee whenever ambit energy is not their electric provider. i even recommended signing up new tenants as consultants as well. This, not to mention the fact that i also pressured my family, makes it seem like getting rich off of the ambit plan would be easy….
WRONG. out of the 143 people that came in during a 4 month term, only 6 decided to move in and accept ambit energy. the rest, simply refused to pay the fee and chose to live in a different apartment. though my social relations didn’t collapse, simple energy pressure almost bankrupted me. I quickly stopped all work with ambit and barely broke even for the deposit and consulting kit charges. not to mention the $17/ month i had to pay for the 3rd party website.
Thanks to whoever wrote this blog these MLM are vultures
“I was actually looking to cancel my monthly subscription with Ambit, not because I do not believe it works, I have seen it for myself, but because the time required to do this to make it work initially is not in me to do at this time.”
Wow! This dude got it right! You won’t be sucessful in Ambit if you don’t work the business or you quit period. This is a customer gathering business All you do is simply helping customers save money on their energy bill they’re already using. Nothing changes and then, you teach others to do the same . I’m amazed of some of the people including the author of this website claiming this is a scam but would rather put thousands of dollars buying lottery tickets, hoping they’ll hit the jackpot. Ambit is NOT for everyone who’s sit on their laurels and don’t work.
ambit energy is a scam and you all know it. you have to push and prod your family and friends to buy into ambit energy and it really isn’t that easy, especially since ambit energy is not the lowest price either. with the natural gas ambit sells, the savings in illinois are nearly non existent, leaving you to just bang heads with people and big them to join ambit energy so you can make some money. it is a scam , just like this guy here says it is. great review!
scam ambit energy Says:
April 19th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
ambit energy is a scam and you all know it. you have to push and prod your family and friends to buy into ambit energy and it really isn’t that easy, especially since ambit energy is not the lowest price either
Let’s see, If I get a free 3 day/2night stay vacation package, then I get a guaranteed 7% off your bill when you signed up with Ambit as a customer. then I get FREE energy for LIFE if I referred 15 others with the service and scammy here come up with a lame excuse that Ambit is a scam. Hey Scammy, does Nicor ever give you a deal like Ambit does? If they do, get back with me on that.
moose, do you know how stupid you sound? drink some more of the ambit scam koolaid eh? first off, I think Illinois is only offering 1% savings right now, but even so, everything else you mention is all about YOU and what YOU can get by pushing your family and friends to switch their natural gas to ambit energy. yousee, the ambit scam is that you people are all about making your money and the actual natural has service means nothing. it’s all about you right moose knuckles?
Trying to make sense of this ambit business. I have been investigating the whole deregulation of the energy industry. I have not had much success to date. I can’t understand the savings of 1% or even 2-4% on a gas or electric bill but Im very interested in the recruitment end because I have been doing that for the past 10 years for the mortgage industry. I can probally sign up a 100 people at 429.00 per month with no problem. I have trouble with the 25 per month for the people that I sign up to have a web site presence. This should be free as someone on this blog said earlier because if the top producers are earning that kind of money then it will only benefit them as long as each person paid the initial 429.00. I would like to know how many reps ambit has also how many customers in the texas, NY and illinois to date?? Anyone have those numbers??
Ambit Consultants: Even if you won the argument that this isn’t a scam, can you claim that the business isn’t built upon a pyramid scheme? I do not doubt that several of you are making tons of cash, and are working very hard at it. But when the business is built upon a pyramid scheme, the last man in is going to get screwed. The math doesn’t add up any other way. The entire system might fail in a week or in 10 years. But the pyramid will eventually stop if not crumble. Even in a best case scenario (where every household in Texas, Illinois and New York becomes an Ambit Energy consultant), who would the last guys sell to? If there is no one else, why would they pay the $429?
The issue I have is the main focus of your business is about having more consultants. Perhaps I was mistaken, but I thought Ambit Energy dealt with energy. But the money that feeds the pyramid comes mainly from the MLM, not the energy. I know others will post here “but we are about Energy”. Then why dilute the business with an MLM Pyramid Scheme? Just sell the darn energy. Don’t sell me a $429 entrance fee. (I won’t even go into the monthly website cost/ripoff.) There are few jobs in life that require you to “pay” to be an employee or consultant. But if you only sold energy, you wouldn’t make as much money. So you invested in a pyramid scheme.
When you do the math, another interesting problem arises. As a new consultant is brought into the fold (pyramid), the upline can make $100 or more. Let’s say for easy math sake, that each upline gets $100. That allows my entrance fee of $429 to be distributed among five or six people. Hmmmm. How does $429 help support the upline. I can only gather that some of the profit from the energy business is helping support the pyramid. Makes sense. Even the energy was suckered into the pyramid. Looks like the energy had to pay more than a one time fee of $429. Perhaps $429 isn’t so bad after all. Where do I sign up? Oh yeah, come to one of our meetings. If your business model is simple, I shouldn’t need an hour seminar on why Ambit is so hot.
What is the difference between a MLM pyramid and a real Egyptian pyramid?
A real pyramid is built starting with a solid base, like most houses and businesses. Another difference is the real pyramids will be standing long after Ambit is no more.
Thank you, Allyn, for a great article. Not everyone will agree with you; that is what makes life interesting. BTW, I am $429 richer thanks to you.
Yes, You are richer until you don’t spend that money on chips and soda. I am investor and I’ve never seen better opportunity to invest $400. If you are so smart please show me the market where can I invest so little money, have full control over it (It is up to me the money will grow or I’ll lose it) and take over 1000% profit after 1 Year.
@shemek
so you are willing to invest in the Ambit energy scam and get your return at the cost of running over and beating up your family and friends? no thanks!
Beating up family and friends is for people with IQ score below 80. The people witch do that are probably something around that level. Everybody who knows how to invest smart never connect family and friends with business. If you don’t know about it you will still spend all your earned money on consuming.
You’ve never answered a question about the market. Maybe for you that is stock, forex or real estate market?
What is up with the strong correlation between MLMs and highly religious folks?
@shemek
you are funny. you accuse folks of having an IQ score of 80, yet you don’t know which “which” to use in your sentence? Ha! A “witch” is a woman on a borrom IQ boy! and, yes, investing in the ambit scam is not smart because the money is not passive. you have to continue beating sheep to make money withthe Ambit Scam.
OUCH!! I think “shemek” just got officially OWNED!
“He who casts stones”
“Pot meet Mr. kettle”
“Open mouth, insert foot”
Are their are more, but these work pretty well
Hey, my friend i am just asking you to try Ambit service for a month, and if you are not totally satisfied then I will make sure you get back to your current provider. It doesnt cost anything to switch to Ambit Energy and absolutely nothing changes except for the size of your bill. All we do is provide the electricity/gas. Just for trying our service you get a three-day two-night Getaway Weekend for Two in one of 25 resorts cities, and as our customer you’ll get Travel Rewards Points you can redeem for cruises, airline tickets and serveral other travel packages.
The best news is that if you refer five friends or family memebers to the company you can get a Cruise fro two on Carnival Cruise Lines for 5 days and four nights. It’s pretty easy; you just send them to a website that the company gives you for free.
Come on folks, this is what Ambit offer a better choice of energy service and it’s for real that’s why it’s the best for friends and family. It will make those relationships even better and better. The fact is there are so many businesses in our country and everyone has freedom and full right to choose what they like. I will definitely join business with friend and family with no doubt. BTW, I just got 2 new customers… and my Ambit network is growing. Folks, get real, this is your own business and you have to invest … 400 paid one time for life and only $29 a month for your website which is the best tool for doing this business. Do you think it’s too much? Well, I lost $12,000 for a stupid ivestment with a mutual fund 5 months a go. That was the big time scam in my life. Think about it.
Listen up, I am an energy consultant. Ambit provides very little savings because it deal sw/ residential users. I donlt even know if Ambit does is broker out electricity bought or buys it ahead on the futures market.
But it markets savings to residential users. The rate schedule for resid users is much different than commerical, and the savings reaped by resid users is very very small, not fixed and floats with the commodities market. U cannot pass on steep savings to residential users-therefor the commission is very very low. Commercial on the other hand is a differnt story. U would have to work for a supplier in a deregulated state for that. services commercial users and we don’t have to deal with subemtered bldg.
All the money made in dereg is on the commercial side. So this is not somethingg to get excited about.
Just read all of the posts regarding Ambit Energy. I am a Bar/Restaurant Owner in Manhattan for the last 22 years, and was involved in Excel Communications as well. Let me be very clear about the myth of the PYRAMID. Every successful business, and I mean EVERY business is a Pyramid type pay structure, and that is why I simply dont understand how people can sit there and say that you have to ” beat the sheep” to get results ? Tell me 1 business that you DONT have to pound your people daily to get results. You cant !!! Every single business operates the same way, and that is, I dont make money if my people dont do there jobs, and the people under them dont make money etc. etc. etc.
Anyone who has had there own business knows this. This is NOT a get rich scheme, its get rich “if you follow the steps”.
Dp not ever threaten anyone into doing anything, thats just ludicrous, and I have not heard a thing about that, and as far as the savings is concerned, when I switched from Con Ed 2 weeks ago, I recieved a ” Congratulations ” letter from Con Ed, and I am still in disbelief over that fact. In the same envelope was a voucher for a weekend getaway for 2 which I gave my mom for mothers day, and she is using it as I write this. I have been with Con Ed since I moved on my own, and NEVER have I recieved even a Thank You, let alone a weekend getaway. I also get rewards points based on usage, which nobody has mentiones, that go toward flights, gas, shopping etc… That may not sound like alot, but let me tell you this. I am paying less than I am paying now, even if its 1%, I know that I am getting points toward something, and when that time comes I am going somewhere for free !!! CON ED will NEVER do that, and if people dont see a value there than God Bless, I do.
As for the business end of this, you absolutely must look at it as a business. I went to sign up a friend who said ‘Its 429.00 “? Thats expensive. Then I realized to my own fault that this friend has never worked on his own, has always worked for someone else, and has NO CONCEPT of what it costs to open ANY business. From the bag I recieved, to the website and informational DVD’s, and all of the Point of Sale materials you get for free, If I simply went to staples to try and duplicate this, it would cost me at least double that, and I would not have the concept , the suppoort, or the know how to get my new business moving.
I do agree that if you are not going to be helping to grow your team, you are wasting time and energy, however, if you are looking to begin a small business that will eventually pay you a nstrong dividend, then dont worry who is “above” you, and realize that your busines starts the day “YOU” decide to start.
Every business is a pyramid, and I love it. The only MLM’s I got beat on, were the ones I didnt work, and just expected to make money from others who expected the same, that my friend is a scam.
Thanks for listening.
Cheers
Daddy
I am very intrested in this Ambit Energy but I do have a few questions:
1. When something goes wrong with the gas/electric, who comes to fix it?
2. Is Ambit the supplier?
3. To make money, do we have to sign up consultants or can people just switch to Ambit?
Joanna,
I am an Ambit Consultant and I will briefly answer your questions:
1) If you have problems with your gas/electricity, the same people who fixed it before you switched to Ambit will still come and fix the problem. In other words, nothing changes for the consumer except who you get your bill from.
2) Ambit is not the supplier. They are the provider. Ambit is partnered with the 2nd largest corporation in the world in which they get their energy from.
3) There are 3 ways to make money in Ambit. This is very hard to explain in writing. It would be much visually going through a presentation with a webinar so you can see and understand it.
Look what Ben wrote. Listen, up in order to be in control of earnings in energy -it must be a savings on a fixed rate for commercial users. Ambit does neither. In competitive bids tenants who use sizable loads of energy nver would consider an Ambit It is not even on their radar. Ambit is never even considered because it is a pimple on an elephants ass selling variable rates that float with the market. Energy is low now-so their is no savings
This Ambit thing is exactly like Excell a MLM-that rewards people with the promise that cannot be fulfilled.
As a commercial consultant working independently licensed-when a commercial account switches from the utility from the supplier i make thousands , sometimes tens of thousands on one user-while you guys are brokering trips to disney, and not saving anyone money. It is amazing what the ego, a pep talk, and brainwashing can achieve. Talk to a real energy consultant. You are foolish to get into this from someone who does it a a professional in the real world for 10 years since deregulation happened.
For an energy company that focuses on acquiring consultants more so than the gathering of customers, should be a red flag; You can gather thousands of customers but if you don’t follow their protocol, you won’t see a dime.Times are tough, if you don’t keep making payments on your ambit site, you can’t gather customers, all those long hours of marketing and calling people to visit your site is pointless in the end if your pockets get funny, because they’ll sign to Ambit’s home site instead of the consultant’s site. Better have a good job or retire from a good one first before becoming a consultant for a hobby; Do it for fun and maybe the money will follow. What’s free about the travel rewards; you still gotta pay a processing fee, who care’s if it’s refunded back later, it’s all about the now! Blogging must be fun for consultants: fronting that they got a big check or direct deposit from Ambit while looking for blogs to flood and emailing other consultants to join the forum to bash anyone talking down on the opportunity they created to continue living a lie.
People like you are all the same. scared little people without vision or courage. Enjoy mediocrity because that’s all you’ll ever achieve.
Allyn, A very good friend of mine got involed with Melalueca years ago and has retired at 44. He is netting 10k a month. He belived in the company, worked very hard at it, and is now retired. He could have listened to the nay sayers, (and believe me there were plenty) but he did not. He stayed the course, and is now right where many of us would like to be. He has his freedom, can do what he wants with his time, and is financially secure. Successful people work hard to get where they are. I agree, not all opportunities are guaranteed, but sometimes you have to have faith and take a risk. Otherwise they’ll be no reward ever. People will make fortunes with is. And you no why, because they won’t be swayed. It’s all attitude and vision and dedication. Not ripping off or scamming friends and family. hard work and vision accompanie dwith the right vehicle. Now if you can factually prove to me why Ambit is certain to fail then I am all ears.
Don;’t do Ambit. I am a seasoned Energy Consultant. Duringg the last 5 years I have brokered millions of dollars in energy deals,Prestigious clients whose Energy I manage. When energy people talk-thos ein te biz. Te hsame suppliers are always mentioned-and Ambit is on no ones radar in the Eastern states. Any biz whose model is predicated on down lines, and intiation fees of hundreds of dollars-is being a smart biz-and that is takingg your mone on the front ened to mitigate their risks as you growingly become disenfranchised. Ask yourself when u go into t hese ventures–is their anyone who started with me-whose checks I have seen that are really impressive. No one ever does-simple answer. You should find out who is regarded as the real suppliers, and go on an interview and get a job with them. Chances are you wo’n't be successful unless you can be an aggressive salesman who is not always looking for the easy way put. A successful salesperson prospects themselves hundreds of people a day-and not their family and friends. Be virtuous to yourself and not side blinded-which is only human.
Vision and courage would be seeing that this is a company that markets energy as a “shadow commodity” to their tru commodity-a multi level marketing franchise. In the history of MLM’s few are either successful, and a none have been groundbreaking in controling the market share.
Put the same zest in becoming a salesman or a vbroker in somethin glegit-where you do not have to pay a up front desk fee.People don’t care about travel bonus points-they want to save money on energy, And if it floats with the market-you cannot control that or make those promises. What;s more these are family and friends. Also, you have to manage a don line and try to extract positivity and push- which is a projection of what you cannot control. Too much energy (pardon the pun) exerted with no distance or forward traction leverage- merely just displacement, negative loops.
Ambit energy is the worst possible energy provider that you could ever have. I am in the process of getting a new provider. It is truly a scam if my bill is due on the 29th and I make a payment on the 1st why I am I being charged a disconnect and a reconnect fee if the payment was made before service was interupted? I have called 5 other electric providers and NO ONE has this protocol. They actually laughed at me when I told then what was going on. So can anyone explain to me why Ambit is the only provider that does this?
My husband and I are Ambit Energy consultants. I was very disheartened after reading the “Ambit Energy Scam” blog. I have been working this business for 4 months, and have been promoted to Senior Consultant with Ambit Energy. This business opportunity has been an absolute blessing for my husband and myself. In fact, it is because of Ambit Energy that I will be able to be a stay at home mom. It is ignorant to make a statement that you will fail in this business. Attitude is everything. The negative tone in the original blog says a lot about the author. If you have a “you will fail at this business attitude,” of course you are going to fail. You are setting yourself up for failure. Success is an expensive thing, and some people are not willing to pay the price. I am not a superwoman, nor have I ever had any experience in Network Marketing. I am simply someone who has a very strong “WHY” behind this business. I use that “WHY” as my driving force everyday, and my business is successful because of it. Anyone who loses friendships , or who puts their reputation on the line is obviously not working the business correctly. I am an individual who has earned the respect of family, friends, and colleagues. I would not allow myself to be involved in a business that would ruin or tarnish my reputation. It is not a business for everyone. You simply let people know about it, and let them decide whether or not it is for them. It comes down to this… You get out of Ambit what you put into it. Five years from now, when I am financially free, and enjoying every moment with my child, I will not be saying I was the lucky “5%” in Ambit Energy. I will say I was one of the people who saw the opportunity, set goals, worked at it, and made it happen through persistent and consistent work.
People!!! If there are any people out there still reading this, the reason it’s a scam is very simple. The Ambit people, with whatever tactics they tell you to use, are not spending a dime on your comissions. All of the money you, the sucker, and your unfortunate friends and family have been conned out of forking over is covering those comissions and then some. The promises of free trips are older then time itself. Please tell me THAT isn’t what convinced you to give them $400. You are better off going to your friends and family and telling them to give you money for nothing other then you teaching them how they can go to their friends and take money from them too. At least that way the ambit assholes won’t be putting their grubbby hands in your pockets.
Every MLM uses the same con artist, pressure tactics. Remember that day they sat you down and made you put together a list of potentials. And they kept telling you that they would apreciate you bringing them this opportunity.
Please walk away before you are in too deep.
I am glad to have found this blog. My husbands friend joined Ambit a few months ago and wanted my husband to join. At the time he couldn’t because he was already working 2 jobs. I couldn’t believe that he told my husband, his long time friend that they couldn’t hang out anymore. He just cut him off cold turkey. I was hurt behind it and at first we didn’t realize that he cut us off because he wouldn’t join Ambit!!! His wife told us the reason why he just stopped being his friend. How could he do that??? A few months later they started talking again, but it has never been the same. he continues to try and pressure my husband into joining him and I told him hell no!!! After what he did, we would NEVER join a company that encourages it’s people to use such tactics…disgusting…
Linnie,
thank you for the comment, this is EXACTLY what many of the Ambit Scam leaders talk about day after day. They will literally tell their “followers” that if friends don’t join or switch, then you should NOT be friend with them anymore! THat is why AMbit is a HUGE scam and why Ambit will fall. The higher ups like to kiss the ass of Jerry and Chris, but in the long run, it is all a scam scam scam!
Jerry, did your dad envision a bunch of people giving you a huge kiss in the ass when he got involved with Southland? You know what goes on in the Ambit world, will you stop it pock face?
I thought and am still thinking of joinning ambit. I been to the meetings and came away alittle put off by all those antics about the regionals consultants and so on. I remember one guy a talk to about all the big checks, and he couldn’t show and said he hadn’t reach that point yet. two weeks later he stood up when they ask for( i can’t remember the name for the level they ask but I know it was above the regional level) those people to stand this guy stood up and when I look at him you could tell he was lying or apart of some untruths. He still couldn’t show me any big checks but he moved up in rank…That has me very iffy; So why still consider it; Jump in work it and injoy it while it lasts, I thought I could make money from the people who join ( by join I mean as costumers not cnsultants) as well as save on my electricity each month; but if you can’t make a dime on the costumers u bring in unless you reach a certain level in the consultant pyramid than its not for me. Its easyer to get people to switch and save alittle money on there electric bill,than tring to get them to folk over 429.00 and another 25.00 amonth.. hey this site helped me; I have more questions that I didn’t think to ask before I’ll asked them the next time if for nothing else thanks for that. I don’t see it as a scam, although I don’t like the monthly fee, and find the 429.00 a big pill to swallow…….
marty, you will see that it is very difficult to get Ambit customers… that is the ambit scam right there. they make it seem easy but it is not.
even if you got 100 customers, you’d be making beans each month in residual. take your $429 to the casino instead, better investment.
Yikes, My next door neighbor was selling my wife and I real hard a couple of months ago. He started the conversation with ” I want to discuss a wonderful business opportunity with you”. That just does it for me. Selling to your friends, family and neighbors is common. But the hard sell on these people just makes me cringe. Who wants a next door neighbor hunting you down on your own property while your relaxing or watering the flowers trying to suck money from you while you save pennies on your electric bill? He wanted US to sell Ambit as well…”check out my website” he says..and I did. It’s a silly generic video of some dude trying to brainwash the viewers into thinking they have finally found their golden nugget and are going to be rich taking advantage of all of this deregulation….puhlease spare me. End result, our longstanding neighborly relationship is now tense and stressful because my wife and I aren’t and never will be interested in pushing sales amongst our family, friends and neighbors. We understand how unclassy and disrespectful this kind of behavior is. Do you want to be that person who you friends are running from saying..”oh here he comes again hitting me up on that Ambit thing”?
Reminds me of a song by Bob Dylan, Positively 4th Street.
“I wish that for just one time
You could stand inside my shoes
And just for that one moment
I could be you
Yes, I wish that for just one time
You could stand inside my shoes
You’d know what a drag it is
To see you” `
95% of people who start any business will fail. It takes hard work and MLM companies like Ambit are no different. The great thing about MLM is it is a much smaller investment than most companies one can start, for example; a restaurant. Another great thing is that if you find a reputable company (I don’t know enough about Ambit to know if they are) and are willing to do the hard work required, including educating yourself on how to do business, you WILL be successful.
The writer of the above article is nothing more than a jealous, uneducated failure in life.
P.S> I am not an Ambit consultant.
BTW, the poster “Scammed” wasn’t. Just didn’t do the work. He exists in ever MLM company and should not be listened to.
But does every business tell you to go to your neighbors, friends and family and strong arm them into joining you? You see, Lobik, you don’t realize it, but you are “that guy” in the family that always has that shiz eating grin on your face as you walk around parties convincing people that you have the answer to their problems in Ambit and if not, then “just be my Ambit customer.” -or- I really need to get that upgraded suite at Ambition so I need to strong arm 10 more RCs into this thing so I can meet Jerri THompson, etc.
You guys are all the same, scam!
I do not know much about Ambit although a stotal stranger approached me and gave me an info once. I was not interested in this because 1% saving is not attractive enough to be a customer and if it is not attractive to draw people, I did not consider this to be a great opportunity.
However, someone wrote that $400 fee would be distributed
among people who are positoned above them, but FTC(Federal Trade Commission)of US does not allow the initial fee to distributed as a commission. This is the fact by their rule.
About convincing your friends and family, I do not think it is bad to talk to
them if Ambit can save them money. And I would not call Ambit a scam
just because you share the info with them. I still do not think this Ambit
business is appealing.
First of all, negative people are never very successful, and I’m pretty confident that the individual that began this conversation has not been very successful in the past, and is likely not very successful right now either. The percentages of success in any area that’s challenging is going to be low, that doesn’t necessarily make it a scam. Most people don’t have tons of success in any area because of a lack of ambition, drive, and desire, and that’s true with Ambit, and with just about everything else. Usually the people that have negative things to say about something, usually can’t stand the fact that they failed at something that someone else is successful at. Just because you couldn’t do it doesn’t make it a scam, some people are just programmed to fail, and thank god for that, because without people like you, successful people wouldn’t have anything to compare themselves against.
I want to know more about AMBIT. It sounds interesting, but I have some questions: What happens with your residual income if your customers are late? Do they still pay you and collect it later? How many customers you need to make about a “6 figures” income? How many states are they in now and how soon will they be accross the United States?
I totally agree with Luke.
Ambit opportunity for me was not attractive enough to go in but
it may be good for some people.
The fact that a total stranger contacted me and told me about it does not
make this business a scam and if one of my friend told me about it, that
does not make this Ambit a scam either. I would simply tell them I was not
interested and this will not hurt my friendship with them. It is simple as that.
I decided to do some research on Ambit and came across this site because about a year ago I was asked to join. I can understand why people feel that they will make money with the program as there have been many MLM programs that have worked. However, this one is questionable as the people who are representing Ambit are questionable. I know for a fact that a Ambit representative in the Mid-West is currently being investigated by the SEC for running a Ponzi Scheme and scamming hundreds of people out of millions of dollars. People are always going to stand up for what they believe in, just make sure you know WHO you are believing in!
Well, I’m making money with Ambit… AND I LIVE IN FLORIDA…
I didn’t buy a Energy Gold Rush site, I made my own…
and anyone that wants to join my Ambit Business, I’ll show how to do the same. Even you my not so happy friend…
Good luck with your fraudulent claims of Ambit being a scam… You make us all who are making money laugh.
Sincerely,
@energybillreductions
You did not really read this article did you? You are a part of the same group that the big fat reverend is in and he tells you to call friends and tell them to sign up or otherwise “our relationship is gonna change”
I love how you AMBIT scammers don’t talk about that part. Your comment is totally skipping over the crux of the scam and that is that AMBIT consultants encourage you to leverage family and friends in order to get ahead and if those friends don’t believe you, then dump them. THAT is the scam! You wanna talk about that?
LISTEN UP!
I recently joined AMBIT and met with Craig Todd who is in the top 10 of earners, and in my upline and in a matter of a few months NY has produced 4 Senior Consultants and many Regional Consultants in our group. To think that a company offers NY folks a 2 to 5% discount on their power, a free 3/Day 2 night stay, and rewards points, not to mention a referral program that allows for free energy, I guess is well…………True. To all you non believers I say call an AMBIT Energy marketing consultant to sign up, because you are missing a great opportunity to save money, enjoy a free trip and not pay for your energy. I have been in the business for less than a week and have made $, bite me Allyn and all you other skeptics, AMBIT is the real thing, and it is just beginning to explode.
I am an energy consultant. I work in Texas with all the MAJOR energy providers. Reliant,Gexa,Hudson,Liberty, Green Mountain….just too name a few. I can tell you this WE are a consulting firm and yet AMBIT is not on our list. Why, you may ask? Well simply because they are in some way not a “Model” company. We only work with REPUTABLE companies funny how Ambit is not part of that. Anyways Ambit is a scam because not only are you guys getting ripped off buy paying the $400 bucks it costs to get in. Ambit themselves are making money off the electricity they provide by adding mils to it. LOL!!! Good luck to those who are part of it.
Well Group.. Alot of great responses. I like #9 (Gerald), #34 (John), #51 (Daddy), #57 (Joe), plus a few others. I am not an Ambit customer or consultant yet. I have a reasonably successful business with another company. I was approached by one of my customers in my organization to “take a look” at it. (Ambit) My business is with a 23 year old “Wellness” company that has remarkable products that I will never be without, reguardless of what ever “business” I promote. I realize that I will have to give up my part time residual income if I join Ambit. I am still undecided and taking my time evaluating the business concept. The bottom line decision: [ Ambit; with CAB (Customer Acquisition Bonuses) with small amts of residual income from a service people need to use anyway. Maybe ok if the service experience does not change and the cost savings is noticable. ] [ Wellness Co; with smaller bonuses to help customers open accounts, but larger consistant residual income. ] I see neither as a scam, just different ways of doing business. Remember: Never trade family or friends for ANY business. Good Luck to All !!!
Today a friend of mine was trying to get me to drink the Koolaid about Ambit and the kinds of money I can be making. He gave me some brochures and a DVD to watch. He also had another Ambit “consultant” there. He seemed like he was there to observe my friend speech/sell of becoming an ambit consultant myself. I’m sure he’ll be calling me later today or tomorrow to see if i had gone through the materials. He also wants me to attend a meeting Wednesday night at some hotel in the area. He was so taken in with this Ambit endevour and his speech to me seemed like it came out marketing 101 with the helping of Ambit doing the coaching.
Just came from an Ambit presentation and my friend gave me the video to review at home. I asked about why they don’t do commercial customers, and they gave me a lot of double talk about fixed rates and credit worthyness, and unpaid energy bills. I ‘d rather take a commisson on what Home Depot or Lowes or Starbucks spends on ENergy than my neighbor. Why do people deny that it’s a pyramid MLM ? They told me that focusing on new customers was not the way to make money. If that was all that i wanted to do, I’d be better off just becoming a customer and saving money on my energy bills. So that means that if another energy supplier or provider comes along in NY and steals away all but a few of your customers, you don’t care, so long as you have other consultants in your organization, who have paid the $429, who have 5 customers and who are also bringing in more consultants. That is a Pyramid; it works if new investors come in, but if you have 100 customers but never get anyone else to invest $429, you don’t get big $. In fact, the Energy part of it might as well be rubber dog sh#t or air. They talked a lot about residual income. The only residual income I saw that was guaranteed was the $25 web site fee that I would have to pay for my term with the company. I asked what the expected horizon was for a consultant in NY. I mean at some point, if we all do our jobs and get everyone signed up as customers and consultants in our circle of influence, then there will be nobody else to recruit to start a business, no more new $429 investments, no more $25 monthly fees, and your billion dollar business, becomes just a savings on your energy bill & the bills of the customers you have, if you can keep them. This savings however might be negated by the $25 monthly web site fee, which you can’t cancel, but which you can’t use anymore cause there is nobody left to recruit.
I think I’ll sign up as a customer, and refer friends and family to do the same. They can keep their Pyramid MLM.
Can any Ambit(or other MLM) cheerleader claiming they are making money honestly say they are making more money from sale of product than from recruiting reps?
I’d settle for even one.
We all know that if you are making any money from Ambit, it’s not from selling electricity.
And all these people talking about ‘starting a business’ need to cut the shit.
You don’t own a business.
You are a sales person who PAID for their job. Your job being to sucker other people into doing the same thing.
Aw man, this is a shame. All you nay sayers are either mislead or just do not understand the business model. The only way to really get ahead in life is to work for your self, and MLM is just one of the cheapest ways to do this. It costs 1million to buy a McDonalds franchise, it costs 400$ to enter the ambit business.
For those of you who don’t get that this is a pyramid scheme, you are exactly the reason why these things keep coming up. There is in fact, a sucker born every day. As a matter of fact for every single one of you who was fortunate to make any money on this, there are 19 people (suckers) who didn’t. It’s only a matter of time before the Feds crack down on this illegal practice.
Look, the scheme behind Ambit is that you have to pay them to work for them. If a company wanted you to be there, they’d PAY YOU to join. Most people don’t do well at these businesses. Just think about Ambit this way:
How many households do you know? Lets say you know 25 households. Not people, households (a place where an electric bill goes). Now out of those 25 households you know, how many are currently in a contract with a power company? Probably all of them. So, you would have to wait until a household that you know has an expiring contract, AND you’d have to convince them to sign up for an energy provider that most likely they’ve never heard of. That WILL be a problem.
I almost worked for Primerica selling term life insurance, which is EXACTLY the same kind of tetrahedron scheme that Ambit is. You have to sell all these plans just to make a few hundred dollars, and if you really want to earn the big money, you have to sell dozens of plans per month, which is impossible unless you cold-call or go door-to-door, since you olny know so many people. Otherwise, you’re looking at maybe $20,000 per year if you’re lucky. Most jobs pay more than that.
I have nothing against Ambit or Primerica, and some people really enjoy and do well at that kind of work. But you have to know that unless you know hundreds of people that want your service, you won’t make anything. And if you buy the premium consultant services they offer (and you most certainly will), along with all the startup costs, fees, and other stuff you have to buy, with no travel reimbursement, no real benefits that I can find, and just the general feel of so many “work-from-home-and-get-rich-now” schemes, you’d probably end up breaking even at best, or even in debt to the company.
Please, take it from me, unless you KNOW that you have lots of people ready to buy what you’re selling, don’t work here, or for any other tetrahedron scheme. If a company requires you to buy stuff from them to work from them other than a uniform, they are not worth working for. And if you have to sell your product to more people than you actually know, you may as well work at a call center, because you WILL have to do cold-selling to make any money.
For more info on tetrahedron schemes, pyramid schemes, and multi-level marketing (MLM) go to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_scheme
DO NOT TRUST AMBIT!!! YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND TRY TO CHASE YOUR DREAMS OF BECOMING RICH BUT THIS IS WHY AMBIT WILL GET YOU!!!
I was duped into attending a meeting for Ambit today and I knew something was horribly wrong. They told me I have an interview, so I went to the interview which was at 7pm. When I asked them to change it to an earlier time, they rejected me, which is odd. I should’ve kept asking him but I was at another hiring agency so I wanted to cut it short.
Anyway, they show you a stupid presentation on how to make money, make hundreds if not millions of dollars. What bullshit! Lose all you friends and alienate all your other aquaintances by doing this.
Stop criticizing Allyn, I think this is the best article I’ve had on stupid Ambit who preys on the vulnerable. It’s stupid to think how these people think Ambit can be up to any good. Don’t get me wrong, some people may earn money from such pestering but in the end, all they are doing is MISGUIDING PEOPLE AND CHEATING THEM OF THEIR MONEY!!!!!!
No Ambit Not A Scam
The reason people complain is because you are only hearing from the lazy people who expect money to fall in their lap without any effort. It’s such a waste of time to spend time blogging negative comments on the Internet ya think? Why not put that energy to positive useful work? Ambit is almost a billion dollar company, debt free with 20% profit every month. The customer gets trips, gasoline, groceries and free energy. Nothing changes for the customer. Affiliates recieve a share of the profits straight from the company. Read the BBB rating at This company is customer centric and consultant centric. Everything is for all of us. Complainers are people who are never happy that cannot take a stand and decide to be successful at something. Ambit gives you the tools. Take a rest and make a change in your life. Think positive, look at the positive aspects ambit has to offer I challenge you!!!
to working girl:you whote very good, but it seems that you are a consultant allready and trying to do business here.anyone thats an insider can’t realy tell because you’re to excited and you live in dreams!
Ambit is not a scam. You just have a bad leader who told you nonsense like breakup relationship with your family if they don’t join Ambit hahahaha…
There are 3 kind of people: negative, realistic and positive. The negative people always point out the bad thing that will happen and always predict the worst to prove him/her right and amazingly negative people always got it right (but how easy is to predict one thing doesn’t work???? like predicting the president can’t revive the economy). Realistic people wait and see other people fail or win and by the time thy want to join something called opportunity is too late..(e.g. wait until everyone has gained money in the internet boom and invest after it burst). Positive people or people with vision always take the opprtunity right away no matter it will fail or not and most of the time it fails, but when they succeed that scale their success will be massive (e.g. Edison fails thousand of times inventing light bulb and he finally got everyone using electricity)….
I don’t think your family or friends will not like you because you want them to save money on electricity or gas, worst come to worst they will say no..but your relationship with the family and friends won’t change! If you open a restaurant and tell your family and friends to eat there would that jeopardize your relationship with them? I don’t think so. And when you open your business you usually give out your business cards to your friends and family right?
I can’t say that I will be very successful in Ambit, but at least I really got my investment back and more in less than 2 months (this is a fact not opinion). Ambit really deliver what they have promised and of course not everyone graduated in Harvard is guaranteed to be a successful person the same her in Ambit…in live there is no guarantee! But if you really strive you always can get to somewhere. Stop predicting Ambit won’t work. Be the person who can make it works and be the 5% .
Its very simple/ Residential utility customers are on a floating rat. so you cannot guarantee your aunt Sue that Ambits rate will beat the utilities rate which some months might be lower per kw on supply than the Ambits.
You would be steering your family to towards a “sucker product” mainly due to your lack of understanding of energy markets.
Ambit is one of the unknown suppliers due to complaints, no real bidding platform (suppliers cannot share rates). They are just not real competitive to begin with.
Then you have the fact that this is a MLM that sells a shadow commodity.
Do your due dilligence and u will see that you are wasting your time. U will get someone who brags about the “vision” -except even that person has never seen a dime or has never seen someones “big check”./ The commodity here being marketed is a bullshit initiation fee. I am a consultant with a real supplier and been brokering energy deals for a decade now and have aggregated over 350 million in energy contracts. Take it from me. This is no different than Googles fake money placing ads scam. Be realistic and talk to real energy consultants-none that broker one product for everyone’s unique energy rate profile, and none that broker disney trips.
don’t listen to a”ambit fan” he does nothing to counter any claims or even appearance of impropriety indicative of ambit and its mlm take your money, and becuae they have to market somethinggwhy not somethingas innoctupus as energy savings-even when they cannot ensure energy savings sicce residential customers are not on fixed rates and there is no are to beat. He is merely part of the ambit sucker program -that has consultants who know nothing but the word kilowatt hour or points. Remember I am the energy consultant for appointed use aggregates who rely on energy such as hospitals-so whose advice will u take Guys like u make my job easier because u don;t really have a suite of options or resources to help energy resources. But we will continue to people talking up this low level nonsense irregardless of astute , real observations about the nature of your work-because people want something so badly that they have blinders on. This is obvious stuff that only a 12 year old a without avenues of due dilligence could not reveal. To believe some of or nothing of what i say-are just 2 equally convenient solutions that discredit the need for further thought -u see
word typo:…..savings since residential customers are not on fixed rates and there is no rate to beat. In other words how can ensure that Ambits rates won’t be lower than the index each month. It s one thing if a biz is going manage risk. But residential users like your friends and family-u cannot take that chance with them-lest they not invite u next year to thanksgiving. Biz and family never mix-don;t u know this
well ambit at the end of the year will provide how much the customers have saved…if ambit rate is more than coned then it will issue a check to the customer fair enough? ambit guarantee customer will pay less if not they will issue a check of the difference too…and there is no contract, no fee to change to other company, and no activation fee…
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/ambit-energy-c134284.html
Ambit Energy is a complete scan from top to bottom. First their consultant, an ex-friend (now!!!), told me I was going to get a lower rate than my previous provider.
I got a lower rate the first month. The 2nd month it doubled. The 3rd month it tripled. I called my ex-friend, and she said she was sorry, but she did not know what was going on. She said it probably was because everything was going up. I kept calling customer service, many times every month and everybody would tell me thay could not help me. Until finally, one day, a service rep finally told me the truth. He told me where to read the small letters in their terms of service on the internet, that shows that the low rate is only the first month. But the sales reps never tell you that.
I am a disabled, poor senior citizen, not even affording day to day food and expenses, whose only income is my monthly social security check, which I receive only on the third of the month. Their due date for me is the 1st of the month. They told me I have a two day grace period. so I can pay it on the 3rd and not be penalized. But every month on the 2nd, they add around $2oo.00 of late charges and reconnection fees. I have to call every month and try to work it out with several supervisors. Sometimes I wait several weeks before I hear from them. Sometimes they don’t return my calls. Sometimes they give me partial credit, sometimes they do not.
This company is a pyramid that sooner or latter will have its source of customers dry up as more and more of their multi-level-marketing scheme reps leave them, unhappy because only the top people are getting rich, not the sales reps. Only Brian McClure, their MLM director is becoming a multi-millonaire with this scam. Their peons and their customers will leave them little by little and the Pyramid will crumble, just like the Babel Pyramid of wicked ancient Babylon crumbled. The modern Babylon the Great will also soon be shattered to pieces because of its wickedness.
from: http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/billing-scam-c138955.html
Ambit Energy
Posted: 2008-12-15 by Vicki Soukup
Billing scam
Complaint Rating: 100 % with 1 votes
Company information:
Hitchcock, Texas
United States
Since Hurricane Ike, Ambit Energy has billed me for AVERAGE use (exceeding > 1, 000 KWh) and has charged me $9.99 for failure to use the minimum KWh. Given the nature of this disaster, there was NO POWER to use, but I was billed for an estimated average and then charged a penalty for FAILURE to use minimum KWH. From Sept-Oct 2008, I used 318 KWH and was charged $179.09. From Oct-Nov 5, 2008, I used 802 KWH and was charged $169.34. When I called, I was told that I was on average billing, so I wouldn’t be able to tell that I had been credited. Now, I have been advised that for 926 KWH, I have a bill for $188.86. I don’t think the customer should be penalized for not using electricity, particularly when there is NO POWER due to a national disaster. They are refusing to let me out of my contract – please, please help me with this scam!
My husband and I have been approached by friends who are Ambit consultants and we watched the video my husband went to the meeting and honestly we dont have the money sitting to fork over, our friends offered to pay it they said we would make it back that month. I read this and I am 50/50 all sides make sense but the thing that gets me is I ask how do I make money and the responses has been the same “we have a video or a webchat thing to show you it is too much to explain in words” I am a words person and if the consultants cant tell me then it really does sound like a scam.
Ive been a creative memories consultant and I could tell me possible consultant exactly how they make money without reffering them to a dvd or a conference.
After leaving Avon, I am so sick of MLM’s. I have started my OWN line of cosmetics and natural products, and am selling to all of my previous customers from Avon. I own several other businesses independently, that I used to be representative of with a corporate company, that sold very similar products. Now I have no rules or regulations, and I TRULY answer to my self, without ANYONE having ANY say in what I do.
Staying Owner Of All My Endevours (And Making Sooo Much More Money)
Colt
I have read many of the previous postings. There are some good points on both sides of the fence. However, I would have to agree with the Egyptian Pyramid Consultant. The math just doesn’t add up.
According to D&B which collects information on companies to help other companies determine credit risk. I only used the free version of their database Million Dollar Database which is not a full report so I am not sure if the sales volume is self reported or actually audited. Regardless, it gives you a starting point. According to D&B, the company had approximately $54million dollars in sales. They also had approximatley 110 employees. According to the brochure found in their marketing kit used to recruit new reps, they have approximately 10,000 reps. Their brochure also informs the reader that size of the industry $35billion (TX) and the number of customers, 15.8 million which translates to approximately $185 dollars per customer for their monthly utility bill. Sounds about right. So, if you take into account salaries for approximatley 110 employees, rent, insurance, utilities, phones, misc., and the cost of goods{COGS} ( i was generous and estimated 60% of revenue as COGS, per my rough calculation I would guesstimate that all these costs are about $38 million. But my guess is that this number is on the low side. Meaning there is approximatley $15.8 million available to compensate approximately 10,000 consultants. On a yearly bases this would translate to approximately $1580 per rep. This does not take into account the money that the executives will wish to re-invest into their business so that they can expand to other markets.
Another way to look at this, take the $54Million revenue divide that by 10,000 reps, on the average each rep would bring in about $5400 per year; taking into account the average monthly utility bill of $185, this translates to just a little over 2.4 customers per rep. Mind you, I haven’t taken into account the revenue that they bring in for charging a rep to join in the business and any websites. So if from 10,000 reps, each brings in 2 customers, it is themselves and one more customer. Surely, you are not going to make money from this.
Just looking briefly at their compensation plan, a rep would need to bring in 20 customers to qualify for a $10 monthly residual income. So if my math is correct, on average a rep would only have 2.4 customers, there’s not many people that would qualify for the RI. So as Allyn pointed out, the % of success is very small, likely less than his generous 5% estimate.
Now, this is not to say that you can’t and won’t make money, but the chances are very small. You would have to really dedicate yourself as a full time employee, run the risk of losing friends.
Looking further into the RI portion of their compensation plan. Looks like you can make some pretty good RI. You would have to have a DL 6 levels down with a total of 729 Marketing Consultants each with 10 customers to reap these benefits. Based on a $54million revenue, the company has approximately 24,377 customers. Assuming someone was there which is possible, but unlikely given the math, this would mean that there is only 3.3 people at that level (24,377 / 7290). Another 10 people at the second highest level of compensation with 2,430 customers. Another 30 people at the next level with 810 customers (81 MC) which translates to $810 monthly RI or $9720.00 annually. So upto this point, we have a total of 43 at the “top”, taken into account 10,000 reps per their brochure, this tranlates to a 0.43% who made it. Slightly lower than the generous 5% Allyn originally suggested.
Why would a company utilize MLM to attract customers? The obvious reason, they know that someone will buy off to the dream of making big money and that person may be able to convert approximately 2.4 family members or close friends. At the end, when people have given up on their dream, they will likely not go through the trouble of changing electric providers especially if they see no difference in cost or service.
Sorry for the lengthy explanation. It is not my intent to discourage anyone. More power to you if you make it, but the odds are against you. You are better off gambling $400+ entry fee as you will likely breakeven, but you will definitely have fun.
George,
Your numbers are way off and the hours you spent trying to figure that whole post out make no sense at all. You have zero knowledge about how the company operates or how consultants get paid.
It kills me reading all these posts about unmotivated people bashing one of the most first class companies I have seen in 20+ years of business management (not mlm). If anyone knows anything how businesses work and took at look at the men behinds the scenes of this company aside from the fact it is a network marketing company, you would be impressed. I used to be an MLM basher until I realized the effectiveness of word of mouth advertising after many years of mass advertising in my previous endeouvors. I understand peoples bitterness against network marketing because most just do not make sense and are designed to fail. You have to have the right vehicle and give the consumers something they can save on and not have to change their buying habits.
Sure there are some bad apples as consultants doing this business and maybe ruining the integrity of the company. Pay close attention who you take advice from.
I went to the Ambit presentation as well. I spoke with a representative who make $20,000 a month. This is what I have to say.
1. You can make money if you are highly motivated and cunning.
2. It is a Ponzi Scheme where only 1% to 5% of the people are going to make it while the rest fail = capitalism at its best.
3. Ambit’s owners/creators are going to make 100′s of millions to billions of dollars while the rest get screwed, make a few hundred to a few thousand dollars a month, and the shrewdest will make 6 figures a month.
I am not endorsing this, but if you understand how the system works, you can make money. If you have no idea what you are getting in to, you will most likely get screwed.
AMBIT IS A BIG SCAM. AFTER THREE DAY OF SIGNING WITH THEM YOU DO NOT HAVE A WAY TO SAY NO OR GET YOUR MONEY BACK. OF COURSE THEY DO NOT TELL YOU NOTHING ABOUT THIS. PLEASE DO NOT LOST MONEY. IT’S A BIG SCAM
It takes a real moron, or a real desperate person to believe this shit… Doesnt everybody realize that all of these positive comment posts are comments made by reps of this company… Even some of the ones that are not completely negative nor positive… (trying to play the middleground
nice try btw) Its absurd that there are so many suckers buying into this… People who believe this shit are uneducated or misguided… This isnt “owning a company” like they make you think it is. I own a company and I know how hard it is to make something work. You cant make anything by investing 400 dollars and 80 hours a week if its this type of scheme. I dont care who you are..
I agree with most of you and really played a devils advocate on each matter. As a licensed prof.sales in the financial industry i was approached by a dear friend whom I trust and respect. After all the promises i’ve kept and finally went to a meeting, i was intrigue by the business model. After all, whether you’re in Financial Sales, Car Salesman, or any sales in general and when you start annalizing the comp plan, it’s just like evey other SALES GIG. After all, isn’t ALL sales like a pyramid? I’m not trying to say that Ambit is a scam, nor am I saying Ambit is a good company. But after i did my due diligence and read almost every scam/blog out on the www and reading BBB, NYState Public Service Commission, and Congressional hearings, I’ve concluded that there is some type of opportunity and Ambit has to be legitimate. Whatever it is that you do whether is Financial Sales, Energy Sales, Sales in general, ONE Must work hard because SALES is the ONLY POSITION that can really make something of you. But just by judging at the business model, it is quite sellable because it’s a UNTAP MARKET. Look back to 2000, during the .com phase, real estate, mortgages, equity investments. Whoever that was in it, whether you’re a mortgage broker or real estate agt or anything that was realated to real estate, everyone MADE serious money. why? because rates dropped significantly therefore it open up a whole new industry with the potential to capitalize on it. Now, let’s assume AMBIT is a scam– considering that Ambit LP was est. in 06 and they only started capitalizing in NY about 2yrs ago and they only have a market share of 9% penetration. That still leaves everyone with enough food to eat, if you got in early. The model is def. sellable, there’s no $ transacted btwn cust. and consultants, plus all the other reward Ambit offers. Now some of you may say, look at bill. Which I did, even though i didn’t join Ambit, but I”M A CUSTOMER. After comparing ConEd’s Privacy Agreement to Ambits’. IT”S IDENTICAL! it’s obvious that a new company may have it’s flaws, after all it’s NEW?! Again, i’m not here to judge who’s right and who’s wrong. Just use some common sense by research and breaking down the overhead vs. future revenues, you will find it quite interesting. Only if i had the time, I would def capitalize, but I’m like most ppl that work 9-5 and in the state of economy, i should be lucky that I still have a 6-figure job in the financial industry. But if i was to get laid off, this is something I would DEF. take a look at again and again until I SOLD MYSELF and ready to commit. One must have DISCIPLINE, DETERMINATION, and DEDICATION to achieve in ANY SALES CAREER. good luck all, i just wanted to state my opinion.
See but all of you miss the true scam that is Ambit Energy and that is that they want you to prey on your friends and family in order to make money. You are to sacrifice family and friends relationships to achieve greatness in ambit, That is true fraud!
Ok, even if you take out the ” friends and family ” out of the business model. You must ask yourself, what true costs is associated with this? And whether or not it is SELLABLE? I’ll admit it, I GOT SOLD and I didn’t have to hedge any risks. Plus I can ALWAYS switch back if I choose to. So where is the risks associated with this???? other then the whole blog BSing on preying ” friends and family”?!? Look at the logistics and the technicals and most importantly at what level can this be sold at? The reason why the economy is the way it is, is because mortgages was a UNREGULATED MARKET! Can you see the parellel now?
And btw~ prof.sales is not like your local car dealer. We dont prey on friends and family. Those of us that know the fundamentals and physcology of sales know how to get the job done. Thanks to the wonderful ride during the mortgage wave, now it’s time to ride the next big thing. Whatever happened to the traditional way of sales…
I have only been in Ambit about two weeks and have already recoup my fee without much effort. I was not instructed to disown friends and family members who would not sign up. I do not know where you got that from. The product is real and the opportunities are limitless. So what is your real problem?
I love all the passion from the comments, people for, and people against Ambit energy, like a soap opera!
Oh Yeah, please people who are very successful with Ambit and read this blog, please submit a scanned copy of one of your checks on here so we can all see how much you are really making! 
(WON’T HAPPEN).50 goes a long way, he said at the meeting “get other people to throw change in your toll booth, you mean it I get my own tollbooth!!lol Good Luck, make money, and be happy with what ever you do! But if you need a Lawyer call me! 
The people for Ambit are trying to get peoples interest for themselves, or trying to get others to buy into what they have, similar to when someone gets screwed from a car salesman. They try to find a way to save face by getting others to go back and buy cars from him as well, so their not the only ones, or they are just really good people trying help another come up in this bad economy, with out any self interest.
The people against Ambit, are trying to save people from wasting time, money, and possible loss of relationships, or they failed at something and don’t want to see others succeed, or they are REALLY LAZY PEOPLE WHO DON’T WORK, AND JUST WANT TO BE NEGATIVE! I think I read that somewhere on here. I think that was the most ridiculous of all the comments, BTW! Seeing as you don’t make the energy or provide the service all you do is try to persuade people to change their service carrier to you! IE (Middle Man!) YOU ARE NOT WORKING! YOU ARE ANNOYING PEOPLE! The fact is no one wants to be bothered by someone trying to sell them anything, and all YOU PEOPLE do is think of how to get a sale ALL THE TIME! how is that enjoying your life? Can’t you just come over and talk about something else, The Champion Yankee’s perhaps!!!!
I have not bought into the scheme yet! I call it a scheme because that is exactly what it is. Everyone knows it’s a scheme because even when I attended a meeting The person who brought me said,”don’t worry when we get a lot of people join, those people will make us lots of money” Wow this is a job! We can rely others, that our consultants get to do the real dirty work! COME ON SON! LOL
Anyway I’m also a real passionate person, I am a Senior at a Syracuse University, and I am interested, like us all in making a good deal of money someday! I don’t want to waste the little I have on some stupid scheme!
It costs 429.00 to start and 24.99 a month! That is not a lot of money, and if you don’t do a thing YOUR NOT WASTING THAT MUCH! you threw 729 away at the end of the year! A comparison, three cups of coffee a day five days a week for a year, 780 dollars GIVE OR TAKE A FEW BUCKS!
Now what I am asking myself is do I want to give up my coffee, to make someone else money, and HOPE ONE DAY that someone down the road, a fairy tale mystical character will make money for me!
I don’t know if I’m ready to make the commitment, but I had a lot of fun reading this blog! Good luck out there to every one, Ambit Business owners!!!! lol and Those like myself who like to watch other people fall in the mud and then walk around it, not fall in with them!
Right on john bout all. Hey, Liberty has brokers taking 6 mils..u are still new at this
Regional Consultant that will be making EC by August here. Opportunity Knocks and few will hear. The savings to the customer are real and guaranteed. nothing changes. Not billing, not the meter, nada. It is called netWORKING and most will fail. Because they won’t take the time to WORK it. Compare to any other business out there and tell me one that has a better potential at a lower initial investment.
I read ALL THESE POSTS! Geeeze guys, disheartening to say the least. Bottom line is I have been looking into many of these types of opportunities, Ambit included, and I am so turned off. I lost a boatload with Reverse Funnel/Global Resorts a year ago, and I’m gun shy to say the least. I like Ambit as they are expanding to NY and it looks like a ground floor opportunity, but I wonder why they have the upfront cost? If anyone has any LEGITIMATE opportunities, please email me jan14510@frontiernet.net. Thanks, and happy hunting!
I think that people tend to forget that most sales positions are rocky at best. For instance, I work at Sears and there are salespersons there in appliances who are easily selling near a million dollars a year. Yes, that’s right a million dollars a year. Does that mean any one person will be able to meet that sort of sales? No, not at all. If I were to try I would fail and horribly! I am not a salesperson and never will be. However, I do think that people need to remember that all jobs have some sort of risk if they’re not the job for you. That same salesperson who can sell the kitchen sink to you when you don’t need one, might not be able to do the kind of work I can do and vice versa. So with this company, it’s not necessarily a pyramid scheme since let’s face it: it’s a sales job. If you’re naturally talented in sales, then you will succeed. If you are not, like myself, then you won’t and you will be out of a lot of money. However we should put as much burden on the people who try to do these kinds of jobs when they know they’re not well suited for it. Basically at the end of the day, we should stick with our natural given talents and use them to our advantage rather then trying jobs we can’t succeed at (and not simply because of the structure of the company). Though I do understand the need of being weary of any sales job as they can be quite ruthless (go to any commission only salesperson to see what I mean) and the opportunity for scams run high but ultimately it falls on whether or not we allowed ourselves to be fooled, or to become involved in something we know we might not be the best at.
I am really looking hard at this and there are multiple arguements both ways. What to do
Guys, my father did sign up for Ambit…only as a customer, not as a consultant. He did get the free 3 day/2 night hotel stay, which was nice. Now, at the end of the year, it turned out that a few months, his bill was higher with Ambit than it would have been with ConEd. Ambit sent him a check in the mail to cover the difference, plus 1%. So, they do uphold their guarantee.
I been reading most of these posts and I’m laughing hysterically to those who are against the Ambit Opportunity thinking it’s a scam, a prymaid scheme, they’re ripping off their friends and familes and giving ridiculous analysis on why Ambit will not work. You people killed me. First of all, I’m not a Ambit Consultant but I am a customer here in Upstate New York in the National Grid/Niagara Mohawk area and I can tell you this: If I can convince my 15 of my closet friends and families that they can save up 20% of their electric and gas bill just for switching to Ambit, FOR FREE! What really good about it? The company will paid my utility bill up to the full amount, and then, I helped them get their 15 customers and they get free bill paid too just for being a customer as well. Don’t forget, free vacation incentives along with that just for being a customer. No one gets hurt in this.
In conclusion; Ambit is for real company offering real service and real opportunity to those who wants to pursue it. Allyn, sounds to me that you’re either a sales consultant for either Nicor or a reseller ultility company like Ambit and you’re simply are just scared that Ambit is taking away your customers away. Prove me wrong. Otherwise, this website is a joke.
“I am sitting here laughing at your little blog as I look at what my pay check with Ambit is this week. Funny thing is I see you put this out on Dec 25 2008 and I signed up as an Ambit Consultant at 9:55PM on Dec 26th. I got my first check Jan 2nd for $200 and just 7 weeks into the program I have made $1570 and I just won a contest for signing up the most MC’s in a months time and that payout is another $1000.00. I made Regional is 20 days.”
it’s funny how the guy in the first post boasts about how much money he is making because after you do the math, he’s only making between 20 and 30 something dollars a day. In that case why not just get a real job. And my guess is that the first signups are going to be the easiest because more than likely they will be your friends and family members who will be the easiest to convince. After that however it will become increasingly hard. You can argue the no pain no gain crap but it really doesn’t make sense here.after signing up your friends and and family consider the added time you’ll need to put in to sign up strangers. By then you’ll probably be making a whopping 5 to 6 dollars a day for who knows how many hours of wasted time. Just get a real job. You’d be better off at a starbucks. What they promise, for the most part is a dream and the company preys on naive people hoping to be successful. This is not the way to go about it.
Emilio said:
“it’s funny how the guy in the first post boasts about how much money he is making because after you do the math, he’s only making between 20 and 30 something dollars a day. In that case why not just get a real job. And my guess is that the first signups are going to be the easiest because more than likely they will be your friends and family members who will be the easiest to convince. After that however it will become increasingly hard. You can argue the no pain no gain crap but it really doesn’t make sense here.after signing up your friends and and family consider the added time you’ll need to put in to sign up strangers. By then you’ll probably be making a whopping 5 to 6 dollars a day for who knows how many hours of wasted time. Just get a real job. You’d be better off at a starbucks. What they promise, for the most part is a dream and the company preys on naive people hoping to be successful. This is not the way to go about it.”
An another typical naysayer giving more anal-yst B.S. on Ambit but 1) don’t know the hell he’s talking about or 2) his math is either way off or or finally 3) just plain clueless. Emilio, first of all, don’t you know that person had not only earned his $429 investment back a looong time ago (from 2008 to be exact!) but by $2000 profit?? Also, if he was not working the business by making 5 to 6 dollars a day Ambit pays him, he’s had already covered on his $24.95/monthly expensive for his business website. So, you might as well be better off telling others to get a real job cause he’s not listening to you. Because you’re full of crap.
Allyn, I was listening to you until I read this post I copy pasted on the bottom. You are basically bashing Ambit to get attention, and then try to promote another business. I cannot believe it! At first I was going with your logic but who would do something like that? I feel like you’re insulting my intelligence. Below I copy pasted your reply to Mr. Lloyed on March 19t, 2009
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Allyn Says:
March 19th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Go ahead Lloyd, keep your head up and keep making money with Ambit. I want you to come back to the Ambit Scam site when the thing goes bandrupt in 5 years. I will still be here and I will help you earn some real money, but not with Ambit MLM scams!
AL
@cj, that’s pretty funny considering I don’t push anything here. I hate MLM and know first hand that Ambit is a scam all the way around.
I was a consultant of ambit for 24 hours. In that short period i managed to solicit 10 customers and 2 potentional consultants. Nevertheless, i left the company…why? because teh company is bullshit. I wont even ghet to the fact of convincing your family memebers to become ambit consultants and shell out teh 400 bucks. I feel guilty even convincing them to switch their utilities provider to ambit. I spoke to ambit customers who had the service and told me teh service sucks and tehy throw in additioanl charges all teh time. It comes out much more expensive and they suck! how can i convince have my freinds and family switch over to a company that will cost more and provide grief. Its a disaster waiting to happen.
Invest your money elsewhere.
Come on, any company that makes you pay money to join is bogus. It makes sense to start a compny for $400? It has scam written all over it.
I was at an Ambit presentation several days ago. I am a scientist and have PhD in physics. You don’t have to be Einstein to understand that this is a classical pyramid scheme. They need to suck in more and more consultants who pay $400 something dollars + $30/month to cover their business. It will dry out pretty soon and will go out of business with 90% people losing their money.
They do not explain how they make money providing gas to customers. I bet they do not. They do not need to. They need some business which sounds legitimate to build their pyramid. They do not want you to work with customers because the customers do not make money for them. They want you to bring in more consultants that make money for them by “investing” 400 something dollars plus $29.99/month.
If I bring say 10000 customers, the most I will get is a free gas/electricity. However, if I bring same 10000 customers through signing up consultants, I would get much more. Why is this? The answer is because bringing in consultants with their fees builds a pyramid, while customers only make the business sound legitimate.
this is such a big lie, if marketing is this easy and anyone can do it, why did i spend all this money in school in marketing masters degree. and if ambit is not a scam why wouldn’t they choose other ways of advertising for the new company for example commercials on tv or radio. what are they afraid of that they dont wanna show on tv? why r they working in a dark side? why would they train someone to trick a friend and ask him or her to go out for a drink to be surprised that there is a total stranger waiting in the cafe with a laptop to show u a presentation abt ambit and try to brain wash you and ruin ur night. at the end what happens? u just dont trust ur friend anymore for tricking first of all, and for disappointing u because ur friend didnt actually wanna see u because he or she misses u but just to earn money on ur back by convincing u to join. Allyn i congratulate you for being smart.
Ambit’s rewards program is a lie – a blatent lie. I paid in advance after collecting the required points. I never received any reward at all. Calling the company was of no use. They “passed the buck” to three different people. Ambit finally told me they would NOT refund my advance payment and I would in FACT receive any reward at all. I don’t even get the points back towards anothe one of this companies “wonderful offers and rewards”. A total scam.
Hey Guys,
I laugh at all you naysayers that think Network Marketing is a Pyramid Scheme. A pyrmaid scheme means those at the top make the most money. Sounds like a traditional corporate structure. In Network Marketing you get paid on your sales! And your efforts! You can actually make more than your sponsor. Network Marketing Pay Structure has been upheld by the Supreme Court. I am not in Ambit, nor does it interest me. But your close minded thinking is exactly why this country is in serious economic trouble. I got my social security statement the other day. It stated right on it that Social Security in it’s current form will run out in 2019. WOW Talk about a Ponzi Scheme and Scam. Now if you built a network martketing business with a solid company, and not all of them are solid, you need to do your research, you could be financially free and not worry about Social Security. But it takes work, and you dont’ have bother your family or friends, when they see your lifestyle, they will come looking for you! Bill Clinton and Robert Kyioski just endorsed newtork marketing. Richard Branson owns a network marketing company. Warren Buffet owns 3 newtork marketing companies, and stated if he had to do it all over, he would have built his wealth in network marketing. Trump just started a network marketing company. It is not for everyone, but if done properly but ethical people, it is a legal, sound and life chaning business model. YOu can do 100% of the work yourself, or have 100 do 1% of the work each and you can be financially free.
Sorry. If you have to pay to get hired on to work, you have already been duped. My husband and I spent the miniscule money on a business license last year, created our own tire and rim business online, and we now have complete control over our own side business in the auto accessories market. Any company that requires you to pay to use their products in order to sell them will benefit far more from your membership than you ever will.
Mimi, AMEN! I don’t think it’s worth it to lose the trust of friends or family in the hopes of earning money off of a decision you are attempting to pressure them in to making.
they are crooks and don’t anything care anything about their customers.
Networking Marketing is the franchise model. You are not paying to work, but rather investing in your business, there is a difference. I am glad you had the forsight to start your own business, but there are business costs and overhead in every business, no matter how big or small. Do you know the incredible tax advantages you receive by owning a homebased business. They are huge.
@James, I am sure those are the same arguments you use when you are scamming your friends and family into paying money to be a part of the Ambit Energy Scam too right? You guys are all the same, scam scam scam! ROFL
I agree with you mimi, iguana and poster scammed and all the others that have the opinion of Ambit energy being a scam. My uncle has been trying to get me to join Ambit for since the beginning of the summer of last year… NOT HAPPENING! Every now and then he asks me about “so when are you going to come onboard ambit??” And tomorrow morning (saturday) there’s an Ambit presentation from 9am to 5pm at a hotel in midtown Manhattan, NY where Ambit is supposed to be giving away free gifts just for attending there’s a 20 dollar adminssion fee. The free gifts are supposed to be laptops and blackberry phones. Which leads me to another thing, if my uncle has been making “so much money with Ambit” then why did he tell me this, “I am definately going because I could use a new laptop” if he REALLY was making so much money since the beginning of the SUMMER wouldn’t he have brought one already from his earnings so he could show others his Ambit presentation ?????
When he told me this a few days ago I acted like I was interested but told him I may have to work. So tonight he called and left me a message saying “I will be waiting for you in the lobby of the hotel, thanks for coming” I laughed to myself as if I am really going to come! lol..
*Another thing, scams like this always pop up in hard economic times like we are in today. Keep that in mind, I mean a $400 dollar fee to join? PLUS $29.99 per month?? No thanks Ambit, I simply don’t have the money to play around with at the moment… Good luck to the rest of you Ambit reps
@scammed, I am not in Ambit, doesn’t interest me, not enough savings. I am in the health and wellness industry – check out paulzanepilzer.com
and his book the wellness revolution. I am defending network marketing in general. There are good and bad mlm companies, and I don’t bother family and friends, I work with like minded entrepreneurs who realize if they dont’ change their mindset, they will be working until they are 80. MLM is not for everyone, but it is legitimate, and legal – people without integrity who work it are who give it a bad name. BTW, I have never told you what company I am in, Not here to promote it, just educatingt those on the legality of mlm.
This is just my personal opinion:
A good friend of mine is a consultant for Ambit Energy and infact did try to sell me on the whole idea of both switching services and also becoming a consultant. He was extremely enthusiastic about his job and genuinally seemed happy, I let him give me his presentation and at the end of it told him it seemed great but I was not interested. My friend neither yelled at me nor disowned me as a friend. And suggesting that people that work for Ambit are forced to do this makes me wonder if you need medication.
I am sure there are those few sales reps that are actually making decent money and I couldn’t be happier for them, point is Ambit is not for me. I am not saying it a scam or bashing on it, it just simply is not for me.
Point of me saying this is simply this: If you think Ambit is a scam or even have a small doubt then don’t switch or use their services. If you work for Ambit or use them as a service provider and are happy with the results of the company then Kudos. I hope it works out for you.
I do wish everyone that uses Ambit or works for Ambit the best of luck. Hope it works out for you.
I have been involved with Ambit Energy since Nov 08! I was in automobile sales for the better part of 15 yrs. you wanna talk about a scam try auto sales for 1 week! you sit there and convince people to pay more for a vehicle than they actually should just so you can make a living. With Ambit, I was able to walk away from the auto industry in April of 2009 and not look back. I’ve pretty much replaced what I was making as a car salesman and I now get to stay home with my 2 small kids. If you don’t have the discipline, determination or dedication, you WILL NOT succeed in any endeavor you undertake. I must admit that I have not had to pester friends and family to join me because they all see what’s going on and want to be a part of it. Name me one franchise you can go out and purchase for $429.00 I don’t think one exists! I work Ambit Energy as if it was my own company and that is why I feel I’m successful with it. My oldest son will be attending LSU in Baton Rouge in 2 years and Ambit is the vehicle I will be paying his tuition with. Call it a pyramid, a ponzi, or whatever else you want to. Just don’t call us broke. So while you are reporting each and every day to your J.O.B. (Just Over Broke), remember I’m sitting here doing as I see fit because of the power of leverage. I’ve only personally sponsored 9 consultants but I have and organization that numbers well into 15,000+!I’m sending my wife, my sisters, and her sisters on an all expense paid trip to Brazil for Spring Break! Will your linear paying occupation allow you to do that? Realize that it is our mindsets that hinder us from doing what we really want to do. Have a good day!
Anybody read the Dallas Business Journal? Oh probably not since you all are calling the fastest growing company in Texas and one of the fastest nationally a scam. Networking marketing WORKS when you have a product like electricity that people ALREADY USE and can SAVE MONEY ON without any changing their buying habits.
Link to Dallas News – http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/smallbiz/stories/DN-Dallas100_05bus.ART.State.Edition1.3c973dc.html
Not to mention that the actual employees of Ambit that are behind this amazing company are gaining recognition as well. Ambit was also named one of the top 50 companies to work for in Dallas. More than 400 companies in the area were involved in the survey. Great company!
Link to top 50 work places – http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2009/09/21/focus59.html
As I read these funny comments, I realize how weak and irresponsible people have become. Get tough, grow up, Ambit Energy is a legit company with a legit service. All of you idiots that dont understand business structure can sleep well tonight knowing that…..if you work for a corporation…you are in a pyramid…probably at the bottom. IDiots.
Thanks Joe, for once again showing the entire world that Ambit Energy consultants are truly blood suckers. Here is what Joe is really saying, “If you join Ambit Energy and fail, you are an idiot”
Great job representing your scam company there Joe-boy!!! ROFL @ You!
I was recently presented with ambit and instantly thought “Pyramid” scheme and it pretty much is. I get the model it is going for(MLM) I look at fiancial advisors the same way becasue they get trails on their sales year/year if they sell stocks, bonds, inurance etc…Ameriprise looks for similar starting tactics like hitting up friends & fam to get plans sold so its in the ball park. My question is this…In NYS, does this save you money and can someone who knows demonstrate it for me. Im confused as to the 7% first 2 months then 1% blah blah blah…If someone has a monthly bill of $300, what would they save using Ambit?.
The trips and points are nice but whatever…people want to save money an as long as the company is real & solvent then I dont care who signs up, Im saving you money but is it real savings Monthly/yearly or BS like $10 bucks a month and a bunch of headaches?
Im sure its a dead end, I just want to understand it better.
Thanks!
Look people its simple, anything you want to succeed at you have to put a little elbow grease into. and Beeks, not only can i save you money on your bill i can show you how to get your electricty for free and make money doing it. its not hard. The people complaining about this have probably been making excuses all their lives and there is a good possibility they might still live with their momma’s.
Use your brains people. I know nothing about AMBIT. Only heard of it tonight when my kids teacher called my house asking us to switch to Ambit for our energy needs. So, I watched their video and read some blogs. REAL COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE REAL VALUE DO NOT CHARGE UPFRONT OR MONTHLY FEES. If the company was real and not a complete scam, they’d be focusing on making money by selling energy, not by charging people an upfront and monthly fee. Its remarkable that anyone actualy believes this could have any possibility of being ligitamite. If this was the great opportunity they claim, management would be fosusing on making mounds of money selling energy as opposed to making money off you.
Ask yourself why would any legitimate company would charge you $400+ plus $25/mo to generate customers for them?
Uhhhhhhhhhh…. because you’re STUPID? Come on people… MLMs bleed thousands of suckers dry every year this way. The fact is that fully 97% of those who join any MLM will ever earn as much as they invest (These people are known by the derrogatory, insider term as “97 percenters”). Of the 3% that do manage to break even, the vast majority of the money is skimmed by the top 1/2%.
HEy Scammed…go back to India. They need more weak minded tele-marketers…..loser.
I guess scammed cant read. I never said failure in Ambit means youre an idiot.
Failure at anything = Failure…is this easy to understand?
scammed: You are lazy. Single? Broke? Fat? Do you understand business
structure at all? Do you still live with your parents? Do you navigate the internet trying to share your ignorant message?
Go to school: Network Marketing is taught at business school across the country. Ask Mommy or Daddy to help you.
Joe–why did you leave comments under two different names? BTW–you are proving what scammers you ambit people are. how well are you representing your company using this type of tactic?
Why do these hacks always compare MLMs to legitimate corporate jobs, saying that the structure (CEO, VP, Director, Manager, Staff) is the same? That’s another one of those tired, overused ridiculous statements that ALL MLMs teach their masses to spout.
The structure of a legitimate business does not depend on my ability to recruit my customers to become my competitors. PERIOD.
Hello, I own a utility auditing company (in business for eleven years), and just came back from a seminar where I spoke to about 200 residents of a senior housing community in New York about saving money on their natural gas using an alternative supplier that we represent.
We already provide this service to the community administrative buildings and they asked us if we could make it available to the residents. One of the residents is a representative for Ambit. Before meeting with us, the administrative board met with him first. They said he had no presentation, offered nothing showing savings, and could not answer any of their questions.
When we went in to our meeting, we had the incumbent suppliers rates from the past twelve months, showed the rates of the supplier we were offering from the past twelve months, showed the proposed rates to the development, and showed them their expected savings.
The board decided to go with our supplier. Today, when we met with the residents, the Ambit representative stopped by and stood in the back of the room ( I did not see him, my assistant told me). He made a comment to the organizer, then left a bunch of Ambit flyers in the lobby for the residents to see when they left. The organizer told me she gathered up the flyers and threw them out.
For the presentation, I had a list of complaints from the Public Service Commission. The supplier we use had one complaint in two years, we know what it was about (customer did not remember they signed up on the Con Ed website, thought they were slammed, and put a complaint in with the PSC. Even though it was a mistake on their end, the complaint could not be retracted). Ambit had over 75 complaints to the PSC in New York in each of the past two years.
One thing I wanted to comment on was that everyone’s main concern with Ambit seems to be about making money. I don’t hear anyone mentioning taking care of the customer. I have found that if you take care of your customers and do the right thing for them, you will have no problem making money. I think that is because you make more money with Ambit recruiting other sales people than you do with the actual product/service. I’m not sure, but I have heard that whether it is a customer with 100 kwh’s or therms or 10,000 kwh’s or therms, you still make the same amount on that customer, and I have heard that it is not much (.50 to $1.00). I could be wrong on that end. Regardless, it still seems that the money comes from recruitment, not from the actual product/service.
Also, what is the sense of paying $429 to sell something for someone else? I don’t understand that. I have salespeople selling our services that would look as if I were crazy if I said “OK, you can sell for me, but you need to give me $400 first”.
Before investing in something like Ambit do some research and contact some of the other ESCO’s out there. They would be more than happy to have you sell there services, would not charge you to do it, and you would make more on each customer without having to worry about recruiting people. I’m sure they would even offer training to you.
The direct selling structure is composed of “leverage”, just as the C.E.O of every company leverages the employees (pres,vice,managers,staff…) this is not MLM propaganda…its a fact. You work for a corporation because the corporation needs to “use” you. Employee = Individual being used for corporate bottom line = profit. Do you think employees are hired in corporations because the ceo loves you? Are you that dumb? ….. and when profit shrinks….so does the corporate pyramid: this is called layoffs.
Get educated.
Kristin, I repeat:
The structure of a legitimate business does not depend on my ability to recruit my customers to become my competitors. PERIOD.
i use to work for ambit. and i did not make all of my money back. i found it a tough sell with family, friends, and strangers. and i am a real estate agent. its is not a ponzi scheme but its works like one. my suggestion is to save your money and invest in something more tangible.
Let me start off by saying that I am an Ambit consultant. That being said, I sat here and plodded through all of these comments and….WHAT A WASTE OF MY TIME!!!! To all you doubters, keep doubting. It just leaves more customers for the rest of us. To all the consultants, these people cant stop your progress, only you can. This is a business just like any other. If you work it, it will work. Anybody can find faults in any company if they want to. Does anybody here think you can get a franchise for ANY company for free? Did Ray Croc give away the McDonalds name or did you have to pay for it?
I was an auto mechanic when i started with Ambit and there is no comparison to the amount of high pressure selling in these two jobs. Who here doesn’t feel like they got robbed at there local garage every time they go? Ambit gave me the ability to quit my job and spend time with my family when I want to NOT when i was told I could. This opportunity has not alienated my friends and family, just the opposite. I have helped the people i care about some money and have made new frienships helping others do the same. None of my customers or consultants sat down with me not knowing why we were there. I have never tricked a friend into a meeting!! That goes against everything that I believe and if thats how you make contacts you will fail and lose your friends trust.
As a customer you may not save thousands of dollars a year but when I got started every dollar helped. If a few dollars isnt a big deal to you take five minutes, become my customer and send me the money you save every month. Whats the difference, right?
I would be more than happy to talk to anybody about this if you care to have a real conversation.
This business isn’t for everybody. If its not for you just don’t do it. Its that simple. Save your negativity for something that really deserves it and stop trying to bring everybody else down to your level. After all this whole blog is nothing more than personal opinions….well at least thats my opinion. LOL
Jontaz–if this ambit scam site is such a waste of time, why not tell us how you found it? what search terms did you use to get here and why?
Scammed- It was just morbid curiosity. I searched Ambit energy scam then i searched “any company” scam and found almost the same amount of results and pages. Like I said anyone can find faults in anything. What do you have to gain by bashing somebody elses dream? Isnt that what the American dream is made of? A dream and the desire to make that dream work. Not every business prospers and not every one makes millions but if you don’t try you will never succeed.
If that “softball” comment was the best agrument you could make I guess my points were made pretty well.
Hi my name is Chris, I recently joined a network marketing company, Ambit Energy. Prior to Ambit I had over 5 years of MLM experience doing Amway Quixtar and shop to earn as a consultant. In my time with both companies I never made my initial investments back. I promised myself I would not do another MLM company. I was wrong, I was introduced to Ambit by a friend who was extremely successful with Amway, and had left Amway Quixtar for Ambit. He was making over $5,000 a month with Amway, so when he told me he was leaving for Ambit, and that it was a brand new company, I decided to take a look. I joined right after seeing the presentation, and made my initial investment back in less than a month. In it now for 10 months, and making money every month. And it’s free to be a customer. Ambit is an energy retailer taking advantage of the deregulation of energy in the U.S, which has only happened in 3 states. They were in business for two years prior to me joining in April of 2009. Feel free to ask me any questions. My number is 917-yyy-yytt. You can make money with network marketing, but you have to do your due diligence, and not join on excitement, but on good research.
Hi my name is Chris, I recently joined a network marketing company, Ambit Energy. Prior to Ambit I had over 5 years of MLM experience doing Amway Quixtar and shop to earn as a consultant. In my time with both companies I never made my initial investments back. I promised myself I would not do another MLM company. I was wrong, I was introduced to Ambit by a friend who was extremely successful with Amway, and had left Amway Quixtar for Ambit. He was making over $5,000 a month with Amway, so when he told me he was leaving for Ambit, and that it was a brand new company, I decided to take a look. I joined right after seeing the presentation, and made my initial investment back in less than a month. In it now for 10 months, and making money every month. And it’s free to be a customer. Ambit is an energy retailer taking advantage of the deregulation of energy in the U.S, which has only happened in 3 states. They were in business for two years prior to me joining in April of 2009. Feel free to ask me any questions. You can make money with network marketing, but you have to do your due diligence, and not join on excitement, but on good research.
I went to a presentation by Ambit in upatate NY a few wks ago….after it was over, the speaker asked if anyone had questions…..I raised my hand and said, “why do we have to pay you UPFRONT $429 plus the website ‘maintenance’ fee monthly to join your company to SELL your product for you? If we’ make it back’ in a few short weeks…then by all means…instead of sending me the $429 initial ‘fee’….just don’t send me my paychecks until that comes off the top…..the speaker didn’t know what to say, just started rambling about ‘business costs’ and some other bs….the MC of the friend who brought me came over and said he liked my spunk and devil’s advocate attirude and wanted me on his ‘team’…I said, prove to me this is not a pyramid scheme, show me your last 12 pay stubs and put up the $429…..he said he’d email me the ‘proof’ that ambit is legit, along with copies of his pay stubs… …..that was 3 wks ago…..i am still waiting…….
Scam – Pyramid – Sad. One my daughters friends tried they whole 9 yards to get my wife and I to go to some meeting. I said we would think about it and when we said no he wanted to know why and got pissed at us. I didn’t have the heart to tell him he is being used and I bet a $1. that he will be done with it in less than 3 months! He then sends us an email at 2 in the morning apologizing but still pitching his sale why its good – something struck me however, he never asked me about switching my electricity over!? he was just interested in us working for them….I then found out if we had gone he would have had to not pay his $399. “operating fee” – This is such a sad joke.
Can anybody that has called this a scam show me a job that your boss doesn’t profit from your work? That sounds like the scam to me. I have already gone further than the guy that signed me up. It’s a business and if you don’t work it, it wont work. We are a LICENCED public utility provider with a different customer acquisition model. If anybody took the time to look, we have the highest customer retention numbers in the business. Over 95% to other ESCOs at about 40%. And, our customer to consultant numbers are almost 5:1. We get paid on customers not consultants so, Jon the guy that approched you probably wont make three months but not because its a scam, because he doesn’t seem to get it.
Jon- I would love to have you as a customer. No strings attached, just honest to goodness GUARANTEED savings over your incumbant provider.
Hello, my name is Scott. My wife and I recently signed up to be consultants with Ambit Energy. We paid the $429.00 to start our business. It was a little slow for the first few weeks but we have all ready made our money back and then some. The thing we have learned is that you get paid but you actually have to put some effort in it. Some people get it wrong and sign up thinking that this is a get rich quick scheme and then they sit back and wait for money without doing a thing. Then they get pissed and start blogging because they didn’t take the time to actaully do the work to get paid.
Everyone in our team is making a lot of money. Two of our Senior Consultants (who have been in for 1-year) are making between 3,000 and 6,000 dollars a month. Thats pretty good money for a so called pyramid scheme. Everyone that I have signed up as a customer has continually saved between 1% to 7% on their energy bill.
Think what you want but if you want to make it in this business you actually have to work and you will get paid very good for your efforts. The problem is people are sometimes too impatient and lazy to take the time to make the money.
P.S. Google National Grid, Con-Ed, or whatever your local energy company is and see what you find.
I am in ambit for two months and have my initial investment plus back with no family members involved. I have advanced one level and have no complaints from my consultants or my customers. My upline have been ex- tremely helpful to me. After five tries at MLM I feel very good about this opportunity.Nobody has told me this is a get rich quick deal! E-mail me if you like.
I ‘ve been involved in Ambit Energy for almost 2 years and I love it. I made my investment back in the first 3 weeks of starting. My customers love there savings and the reward points and were overjoyed about the vacation voucher they received and used. They also like the fact that they get a FREE WEBSITE and a chance to get FREE Electricity. The Ambit Energy Opportunity is like any other, they all will work if you put the time and effort in. People need to stop complaining. If you don’t want to change the situation your in, never try anything new and let your dreams be stolen by others who aren’t doing anything either. I say Go FOR It and let the others ask when they see the change in your life ” Are you still doing that electricity Thing” My answer is YES, WANT TO SEE IT AGAIN?
I have a friend who joined and so far he is making hundreds and his light bill is only a few dollars. Before AMBIT, he was making less money and had a huge light bill every month. Now he is doing better.
It’s sad to read all of these personal opinions becAuse it is evident that your friends and whomever took you to the ambit presentation are misinformed. Ambit just like all of MLM that are legit provide you with your own business opportunity. Let me touch the topic of the pyramid scheme. The U.S. Government, your job, are all shaped like a pyramid. In the book career warfare, Mr. D’Alessandro says, ” that as the pyramid gets smaller the competition gets fiercer.” If you haven’t noticed if you want a better job you have to perform to be considered for the position, however if your boss doesn’t like you chances are that you are not going to get the job. Also your boss makes more money than you and his boss makes more money than your boss and it’s all off of your hardwork that they make All of this money. How long will it take you to move up the corporate ladder to make good money remeber there’s only one CEO position and a million workers just like you and me that are fighting for that position. I joined ambit b/c I wanted a better opportunity where I’ll get paid based on my efforts. The difference with ambit and a tradtional job is that as I move up I can share on the profit dispersement by the company and I only get promoted to another level only when my down line gets promoted. I don’t position ambit to my friends and family members as an ultimatum, but I make try to make them see the business system as simple as possible and if they don’t want to be consultants then hopefully they can help me by being customers at no cost at all. Just like in all businesses there are start up cost. The start up cost for ambit is one time only and it is just so you can actually get paid by selling the ambit products. All ambit is doing is giving you your initial investment back when you earn the requirements that are needed. I see that as a fair deal, put up money up front, earn it back it’s called good business. Look the reality is you and everyone else uses electricity and gas and purchase it unconsciously, you can either get it cheaper if you chose or get it cheaper and make money out of it. However there is no such thing as get rich quick, it takes time, patience, and a lot of hardwork to make this business and any small business prosper. t
I am searching for a new electric company in Temple, Texas and have sadly discovered that there is no way to avoid paying MORE money for LESS electricity. ONCOR Energy (the parent company of Ambit Energy) is the ONLY equipment owner, meter reader, etc., in my area. I don’t know where else to turn except to make you aware that every customer they have that conserves our nation’s resources by using LESS 1,000 kWh of electricity per billing cycle pays these additional charges: “ONCOR Energy Efficency Charge” and “ONCOR Advanced Metering Charge.” My additional charges on this billing cycle are $9.66. I used 538 kWh of electricity and my bill is $67.43. These is so infuriating to me as a conserving, recycling, composting, tree hugger, I must wonder if this is even LEGAL and if their other customers or other CONSERVATIONALISTS are aware of this. I tried Green Mountain Energy, but they do not serve my area. I am so angry about this that I am subtracting $9.66 from my bill and will pay the balance, which leaves me wondering what will happen first, will they cut off my electricity or will they take me to court?? Believe me, I am willing to do either just to expose this. I’ve also written to Greenpeace and the President about this.
BEWARE EVERYBODY! I am a senior consultant in Ambit. Trust me you don’t make money in it. All the executives in Ambit are lying to you they violate company policy to make money and they do it to “help” you. Chances are the company will “clean” the acts of the top executives by terminating you. They ALLWAYS punish the victim of the perpetrators. They need the top guys to make money. I know this first hand as well as speaking and hearing from many top executives of Ambit. The whole company is disguised as a legal,honest company, when in truth it’s a corrupt company. I could go on and on… bottom line DON’T FALL INTO THE AMBIT TRAP LIKE I AND MANY OTHERS DID!!!
I am 60 geat at talking to people – Real Estate Broker in Hawaii…Have a
step-son in NY, A friend of my wife refered me in CC, TX…..Did not know
anything about WEB-Site maintenance…..I spent 20 years in the Navy,
Crypto and Intelligence – BA degree…..If you sell enuff to have your
electric paid for and 2K a month — Explain me the issue at Ron4texas@aol.com….I am open and I am persistant, intelligent and
I need to know what others have experienced prior to getting in.
Thanks, Ron
I am not currently in Ambit but have been researching it. I have read both good and bad about the company. I have spoken to some customers, that have been customers for a little while in NY, they seem pleased with the service provided and some of them are getting the electricty (KWH) protion of their bill for free because they have refered other customers, and 15 of them swithced to Ambit as their provider. (On top of getting free electricity these same people have a voucher for a cruise. Ambit also let you earn sky miles so you can get free air fair.) These people still have to pay the line fees and taxes like everyone else, but have significantly reduced their electric bills. I think that a company that allows their customers that kind of opportunity can’t be all bad, I know that my own electric company doesn’t do anything like that. To switch power companies is free if that option is available to you. Unfortunatly it isn’t that way for me as my state hasn’t deregulated yet. I do look forward to the time when it does and hope that by joining a company like Ambit right now will be ahead of the game when it gets to my state.
I don’t understand why your daughters friend didn’t offer you the chance to become a customer and recieve a lower rate on your electric. The way Ambit is set up you get $100 for every 5 customers you sign up in NY and for I think its every 4 in Texas and Illinois. Perhaps they were probably to new into Ambit and didn’t catch everything they were shown.
There is a fee to become a consultant with Ambit, which if you have ever looked at network marketing or mlm’s, there is always a fee to become a distributor or consultant or whatever term they use. I don’t necessarily agree with this, but if the opportunity appears to someone to be good and profitable then they will pay the fee. The start up supplies you get with the fee are useful to get started, and you would have to buy some of that kind of stuff anyway if your serious about building a business. No business is free to start up.
My dad has been in Ambit for 2 weeks today (Friday) and he has made back his inital start up cost and then some. He has signed up 1 consultant which = $200 and 18 customers which equals at normal rates $360, but at the time he signed them up there was a promotion going on and that amount was doubled, so it equaled $720. His total for this last 2 weeks being $920. Yes he has been in other network marketing companies but has never had success with them and has never made back what he spent to get in, so he isn’t one of those who gets in and brings a huge downline with him. He spent approximately $450 to get in. Any money from here on out will be profit for him.
My brother also signed up 1.5 weeks ago, he has no network marketing experiance. He has signed up 5 customers so far, during the promotion, and has made $200. No he hasn’t made back his initial investment, but he has had any trouble finding people who want to save money on their electric bill and have a chance to get it for free.
The important thing to do when looking into any business venture is to know what is being said about the company, good and bad, and weigh the risks and benefits for yourself. Try to find and honest person to sign up with if its mlm, and someone who is willing to invest some time with you to help you build your business. So many mlm-ers are left on there own and don’t know what to do. And so many of the “top earners” tend to exaggerate because they are excited or whatever, and the more people that come in the more they earn. Don’t sign up with someone who you don’t know if you can trust.
So, I think after looking at a lot of the bad and good that has been said about this company, I still think it is a good opportunity. Even with the start up costs. I have been in several mlm’s and havet had a little bit of success with them. But I, like my father, am not one to bring a down line with me either. I don’t as a rule bring people to the big meetings either because I don’t really like the hype. I like to give people streight facts not exaggerated ones. I like to keep my numbers low, reasonable and achieveable when dealing with mlm’s.
I hope this helps.
Most people fear what they don’t understand…….so let me try and calm a few of you…..Idgiebella, you wanted proof…so here it is…….. EDITED OUT ….independent and unbiassed. A ” Google ” search does not mean ” Research ” …. look into the company’s founders….and who they have partnered with to purchase energy…… look into the credibility of Thomas O’Grady who did the feasability study on the sustainability of Ambit…….do REAL research and you will be kicking yourself for being so easily swayed. No one will get rich overnight in Ambit and if you do your homework you will understand why…..however….the harder you work the more you will earn in the long run………you reap what you sew…..and there has never been a scam liscenced in any state. Ambit has been liscenced by the attorney general of all 50 states and the regulating authorities in NY, TX, IL, and OH
Ropci says:
October 26, 2009 at 12:37 pm
AMBIT IS A BIG SCAM. AFTER THREE DAY OF SIGNING WITH THEM YOU DO NOT HAVE A WAY TO SAY NO OR GET YOUR MONEY BACK. OF COURSE THEY DO NOT TELL YOU NOTHING ABOUT THIS. PLEASE DO NOT LOST MONEY. IT’S A BIG SCAM
Please go back to school……
I just arrived home from one of Ambit’s “sales pitch” meetings in Oneonta, NY at the local Holiday Inn(the date is March 26, 2010; meeting started at 7:30). With me were my parents and my girlfriend. We all took notes and compared them after the meeting.
Now, I’m not going to speak ill of any of the Abmit consultants by naming them. However, the main speaker(who shall remain un-named) was not dressed professionally – he looked like he was a “fresh out of high school” applicant at a big company interview. The “new” consultant who opened the meeting(he supposedly was with the company for a mere 18 months) was more professionally dressed than his “senior” counterpart, who supposedly had been with the company for 28 months, and in the network marketing industry for several years.
All four of us asked(myself, my parents and my girlfriend), both before and after the meeting, several questions, pertaining to possible income and how the “energy” would be cheaper if the supplier doesn’t change. We were told “it’s complicated” and “it would be explained during the presentation”…which it wasn’t.
Is Ambit a legit company? It appears to be, after looking at it’s website. However, neither myself, nor my parents or girlfriend, felt comfortable signing up as either customers or “consultants”. I will not call this a pyramid scheme or say it is another “Ponzi” in the making – I freely admit I could be wrong. But I will say I was not comfortable at all after comparing notes – in fact, it left a very bad taste in my mouth, especially the $450 price tag just to get involved, considering these troubled economic times. Who has an extra $450 laying around that they can just give away in the hopes that it’s going to come back to you?
All I ask of anyone who reads this and decides to go to one of Ambit’s meetings is to think everything through before you whip out your credit card or checkbook.
Scam or not, I made $200 of my initial $450 investment back in less than 1 week. If u take the time to understand the product/platform, then I don’t understand why everyone is so negative about it. Force it on your family and friends? That seems absurd to me. I was brought into this by someone who was 100% gracious and respectful, with no arm twisting or hard sell tactics. No relationships were tarnished or damaged. Would anyone who is a sound-minded, rational and moral person ever tell a friend or family member that we can no longer be just that if you don’t switch to Ambit??? That’s just crazy. Ultimately, I tell people that I know what I’m doing and their either willing to support me or pass on the idea. No harm…No foul.
Most people, b/c of my relationship with them, are more than willing to help or at least try it out. No one is locked into anything.
Bottom line, I am making money and even though it takes work, so does my 9-5 day job. I really find it borderline laughable that someone would create a blog and take the time to respond to many of these comments over something they are obviously lying about, since I know (b/c of my own personal experience) with 100% certainty that no one ever told me to be spiteful to anyone in this company and further, I have made approx. $10k in 8 months and am currently experiencing $2100 in residual income this month, which I only see growing.
Regardless of what you believe, this blog is absurd. All MLM ideas can be skeptical, even this one, and I was VERY skeptical at first, but again no one has ever said to be mean to anyone over it. Good luck to those that are having similar success or are thinking of trying it out.
The people on this site shouting scam, or pyramid scheme, are badly mis-informed. Ambit is not a scam – in fact, no network marketing company that are members of the Direct Selling Association, is a scam. They are bon fide companies that sell a product or a service via means of referral, or Network Marketing. Instead of traditional advertising, they use people referring products to each other as a vehicle to sell. Its a great business for those that like it. However like any business or job, if people who get into a Network Marketing business do not work at it, they will fail, just as if they do not work in a job they will get fired. That is no reflexion on the company, but on the person himself. However the people shouting scam are one of two groups, either they tried and failed, or they are scared to start and would rather have an “excuse” not to have to really do something to make a difference in their life. Brutal I know…. but in most cases true. Its easier to call scam than actually do it, right? If you don’t call it a scam, and it is as good as it looks if you work …. then … uh oh… you will have to work!!! I have no problem if you do not want to be a network marketer, and just have a 9 – 5 job, but please shhhh about it. I don’t criticize your choice.
Although you know what ….. let’s criticize a normal job for a while…. you work 8 or 9 hours a day for linear income – ie you work and get paid you don’t work you don’t get paid. You get two days off a week if you are lucky and 2 weeks a year. You work for 40 years til you are 65 with no form of payment from the company you worked for for 40 years, or if you do … its pitiful. However, at any time during that job you can be fired. Also if you are promoted in that job, rarely does the extra money you make justify the extra hours and responsibility you have. What kind of life is that. Not for me. I work 2 days a week, no boss, all my bills are paid whether I work or not, and I can take whatever time I want whenever I want and my residual income still comes, and if I still work harder, I can also become rich. AND along the way, I help others do the same …. hmmmmmm I know what I prefer.
Now lets talk about Pyramid Scheme: As I said Ambit uses Network Marketing as its sales vehicle, like Amway, Avon, Mary Kay etc etc. Avon has been around since 1886 and does $10.7B a year – It is the shape of a pyramid yes, but the “Pyramid Scheme” people like to shout when they see network marketing is an illegal scheme popular in the 70′ and 80′s where people would send money to others and recruit others to do the same, and all passed money up the chain to the guys at the top. Noone lost much, but the people at the top made vast fortunes. These are illegal because there is no product or service that is paid for, and therefore at some stage late in the chain it stops and people lose a few dollars.
Also people shout Pyramid Scheme because it is pyramid shaped …. but so is most business….. For example. Chinese Manufacturer makes a toy, a few importers bring it into the US, many wholesalers wholesale to thousands of stores who sell to millions of customers …. looks like a pyramid huh?
For goodness sake, our own government is a pyramid shape. People, please become informed rather than making brash comments. People read your BS and lose heart in something that is genuine…. and possibly their dream. Then again, it is human nature to bring down others to justify one’s own laziness or failure.
Lastly, if you want to shout scam or Pyramid scheme need to shut up or put up. If you think these companies are fraudulent, please go to this site and report them:
http://www.consumerfraudreporting.org/
or
http://www.fbi.gov/
or
http://www.scambusters.org/
You will soon find out if these are scams.
Finally, Network Marketing now pays all my bills in residual income, and all my customers pay less for their electricity. It took some work and real effort, but no more than a regular job. What is so wrong about that? Stop trying to kill others dreams because you don’t have the balls to try it yourself.
It is really irritating when people scream scam when they don’t even put in effort to earn any money. It doesn’t matter what kind of business you own, weather it be a traditional business or a network marketing business, if you don’t put for effort you won’t make money! Do your homework before you spend the money to sign up with anything. Of course you can’t get your money back once you have spent it. That’s the way business works. You can’t buy a store, restaurant, or any other type of business and then change your mind a little while later and expect to get your money back. Just because you chose to sign up with something you didn’t know much about, before spending money on it, it isn’t the falt of the consultant who showed you this opportunity. That doesn’t make Ambit a scam. Its just good business pratice to do your research before entering ANY business opportunity. You could always work a little and get your money back that way. My father and brother earned back their initial investments in 2 weeks. They had to work a little bit but now they have their money back and then some. Or just cut your losses and move on.
People…..I have been in it for 3 weeks…..3 WEEKS….didnt sign ANY family up….First bonuses will amount to almost $2,000. Let me say it like this (for all you uneducated bloggers)
I personally make $175,000+/year. Remember….this is a business opportunity. If you treat this like a $429 business, then, you will get your money back, and maybe a little more. But, if you treat this as your own business, and work, and think a little bit….then it is beneficial. I have a total consultant number of 13 under me, they are mostly business men and women who either are executives in their industry, or the CEO/Pres of their OWN company. Now, go and try to open your OWN busienss for $429, and make it. The $429 is your investment (Keeps all of the dirt of the world out of the system) who would not be ethical/moral in this business. If I came to ANYONE and said that you can make a huge profit in this, and you dont owe ANY START up costs….what type of people will you get???
I can tell you, I would NEVER lose a friendship over this Ambit business. I actually had a good friend of mine say he is not going to switch over, as he thinks its a scam. I told him fine, smiled at him, and said “if you seriously think I would get you into something to scam you, then I am sorry you feel that way” and laughed it off.
See, the author of this article doesnt understand what this is. He cannot fathom a job where you dont have to punch a clock…..well, as I say, to each their own. This is not for everyone….and getting the right people who UNDERSTAND business, and see the potential, are the RIGHT people to talk with. The people here who cannot put intelligent sentences together, well……you dont need me to tell you that they are most likely NOT right for this!
Do your RESEARCH (Not Google-search) and make your own EDUCATED opinion…..
Just heard from an old high school friend in Michigan who hasn’t contacted me in a long time but now wants to “save me money” on my Gexa Energy bill here in Texas, and BTW, wish me a Happy Easter. In fact the last time we talked was about five years ago when he was going to “get rich” then selling Amway Quixtar. But I had already heard about that MLM scam.
You see I had had a former teaching colleague invite me out to dinner at the Macaroni Grill whom I had lost contact with over a few years due to job changes. He was very friendly on the phone, wanted to “catch up” on old times, wanted me to meet his new wife. After he had insisted on taking the restaurant bill (his treat!) before we had come close to finishing a bottle of wine and dessert, he took some of the crayons on the table and used the paper table cloth to outline how I, too, “could get rich”. He said he was never going to return to teaching. He embarrassed me (more like shamed me) into going out to my car for my check book, and shelling out hundreds that night. He didn’t tell me Quixtar was Amway and I only found out when I got home and researched them on the Internet. Since I had a nephew who did get burned trying to sell Amway, I stopped payment (for a fee) on the Quixtar check first thing the next morning and called him to count me out as nicely as I could. My “good friend” hasn’t talked to me since.
awesome, call your friends out of the blue and try to talk them into joining Ambit Energy. That is the “scam” as I see it folks.
scammed, you sound like a disturbed child. No one at Ambit makes you do anything you don’t feel comfortable doing. You are your own boss. If you feel like calling an old friend, new friend, or simple acquaintance, then that is your prerogative. If you don’t feel comfortable doing it, then you don’t have to. It is what you put into it and how you structure it.
I’ve had friends say yes; many so no. We are still friends. If I was on the other side and was solicited by a friend, I certainly wouldn’t come on here afterwards and make a post about it like some did above. Grow up. So an old friend contacted you, big deal. Wow, what an inconvenience to listen to a sales pitch. We get them all day long in advertisements and media from people like less likeable than our friends; it wouldn’t bother me one bit.
If a friend or colleague did use those tactics, and pushed it on me, it would be a reflection on them and not the company/idea/marketing strategy.
You need to check the definition of a scam, which as a verb is an attempt to deceive or defraud someone. Simply pitching a sales idea to someone in itself is not a scam. What Ambit is selling is not a scam. Take NY: Fact – Energy was deregulated in NY; Fact – There are 25 private Energy Supply Companies (ESCOs) now doing business as energy suppliers in NYS. You can actually find these ESCOs on Con-Ed’s (a major utility provider) website. Fact – B/c of deregulation, the state provides tax incentives to try to induce customers to switch their energy supply to one of these private companies, which helps demonopolize the industry andl promote free market competition.
Further companies like Ambit, which market/advertise through direct sell consultants, hence, the whole idea we are discussing here, are able to save thousands on advertising costs which they can pass along to both consultants and customers. Fact – the trips, rewards points, free energy are all real rewards that customers and cosultants can obtain; this is the same as many credit card companies offer. Fact – the savings are guaranteed in writing and NO, they are not major. In NY, it is 7% off your first 2 bills and a guarantee of “at least” 1% annually; not exactly life changing money, but not a scam either.
All of the above is fact and none of it has to do with Ambit specifically. You can read about deregulation on many sites and even on your incumbent utility providers’ sites.
The fact of the matter is that you are selling an alternative, not a scam. Its the same as trying to convince someone that they should shop at grocery store A over grocery store B b/c A is cheaper. Its not a scam if you try to pitch this to someone. Just b/c a store advertises that they have the lowest prices doesn’t mean its the truth, and we get these selling tactics everyday on TV.
A scam would be to defraud someone into believing they are getting something they are not. That is not the case here.
AMBIT IS AMAZING!!!! By joining ambit it has opened up so many oppurtunities for my family and generated income that we previously needed. Ambit is not a scam and whoever told you to say that was seriosly misled. Still it is a great oppurtunity, your website is stupid, you are a well i won’t say it, and Ambit is life changing.(in so many good ways)
you guys crack me up. If you are being compensated for convincing people to “join” Ambit, that is not like recommending a grocery store!
Sheesh, you guys will use any excuse to explain away the fact that you are leveraging friendships and relationships for monetary gain.
THAT is the SCAM! However you want to define it, you are mentally scamming your friends and family.
Ex Ambit, so people that work for advertising or marketing companies, or lobbying firms, all legit big businesses in the US, are all scammers? That is the logic you are stating?
If I as a consultant am also an Ambit customer, and have experienced minimal savings and rewards for after switching to Ambit, and nothing has changed regarding my utility bill, then what is the big deal? Wouldn’t my friends or family have to actually experience some harm in some way in order to be scammed? They are not, so where is the scam?
And if I can make $ explaining the Ambit opportunity to others, either as consultants or as customers, then all the better. That doesn’t make it a scam, it makes it a business opportunity.
Your above post portrays one of two things – your either a horrible salesperson that would actually leverage friendships and relationships on something as miniscule as Ambit OR you probably are viewed as shady in the first place by most people.
No one is complaining to me about this issue. They either are interested or they aren’t. Check your definition of scam and reevaluate; it is obviously misconstrued.
Matt, you are “tearing down the straw man” as you have changed your analogy. You used the recommending a grocery store analogy, now you change to marketing and PR firms.
you are typical.
BTW- you are a young guy so let me help you out here: your friends and family that you try to “convince” to join as consultants… they are hurt by your leveraging of the relationship.
That relationship IS different because you used it for your own monetary gain. You will learn that as you grow older and that is when you will understand the underlying scam that all MLM companies prey upon.
I can see your point that using your friendships as leverage could be hurtful, but as a consultant in Ambit your offering your friends and family the chance to save money as a customer. That, in my oppinion, isn’t a bad thing. Wether they become consultants or not is up to them, you don’t have to become a consultant to take advantage of the savings from Ambit. I’m not even an Ambit consultant and I can see this, so I don’t see what the problem is. Ambit, unfortunatly isn’t offered in my area so I don’t have the option to switch to a different electric company, I am stuck with what I have. I would love the opportunity to save money on my electric bill, and would appriciate a friend offering me the opportunity to save money. My friends and I tell echother about sales going on all the time, wether they take advantage of them or not is up to them and no skin off my nose. But they always appriciate being told about ways to save money. Wether I am doing word of mouth advertising for Walmart or Ambit makes no difference to me as long as it saves people money on stuff they use.
Ex Ambit, you have absolutely no idea who I am. Why would you assume I am young and as you are hinting, also a “naive” guy? I have a very successful career working for a large nationally recognized, publicly traded company where a manage a significant book of business; I’m not some wet behind the ears twenty-something, not that that would matter anyway. The fact that you blindly applied a stereotype to a person’s comments on the computer without any real knowledge of who I am shows exactly why you feel the way you feel and probably failed at this opportunity. Open your eyes buddy.
And by the way, both of my analogies work. You are referring a service to a potential customer. My point, which you missed obviously, is that you’re claiming that that in itself is a scam. It is not. If I tell a friend to go to a store because I think it will save them money and in my own personal experience, it has, then how am I scamming them? If an advertising firm markets a product as being the best, even though it may or may not be true, we don’t go around calling people in advertising scammers. Do you understand know?
Either way, throwing out all analogies, I’ve never leveraged any family or friends for business purposes. And I was never brought into this business by someone who leveraged my friendship. They presented me with an opportunity and I weighed the pros & cons of that opportunity. No one ever begged me or pressured me to join. I have never begged or pressured anyone to join.
Its borderline ridiculous that you are on here making statements that do not apply to most people’s experience. If that was your experience, well than the person who got you involved was probably unbecomming and you yourself, as a salesman or person, used leveraging tactics that created the tension that you felt coming back at you.
Either or, every business has it’s bad seeds, and more likely than not you are ex ambit because you were one of them.
Sounds like you came across a bad apple in the bunch. I’ve NEVER been told to tell my relatives “our relationship is going to change”.
BTW, Ambit Energy is a licensed Public Utility Company. Their pay schedule just happens to be like a MLM. The poor JoeShoe from Reliant Energy that convinced me to switch to their lower rates from the outrageous TXU Energy rates was making his living by commission. I can get my electricity for less cost than both of them AND make money. The majority of businesses have a pyramid payout system. The company makes the money from customers, then THEY decide when and how much to pay the people working below them and IF they get a bonus. That poor guy from Reliant got his one shot from us and would never get another dime if we called Reliant and said he was very nice and knowledgeable. He’s not getting paid to be nich & knowledgeable. He’s getting paid to seal the deal. People who get paid by commission only are the ones have to work the hardest for their living. If they don’t do it, nobody is going to do it for them. With an MLM, you can’t sit down and do nothing and expect something to happen. You are a bad example to the people you are hoping one day will help you to make more money. You need to look up the definition of the word scam. You are way off base.
THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT AMBIT ENERGY IS NOT A SCAM……CALL THEM…..THEY ARE A GOVERNMENT AGENCY:
http://www.FTC.com
1(877)-FTC-HELP
AFTER YOU CALL THE FTC AND FIND OUT THAT AMBIT ENERGY IS A
LEGIT COMPANY…..YOU’LL REALIZE THAT EVERY LOSER WHO HAS FAILED ON THIS SITE IS PLAYING : VICTIM….
AMBIT ENERGY – BBB RATING – (A) GOOGLE IT!
AMBIT ENERGY – PARTNERED WITH (SHELL ENERGY)
AMBIT ENERGY – FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION SAYS ITS LEGIT!!
AMBIT ENERGY – GUARANTEES A SAVINGS!
AMBIT ENERGY – CHARGES $429 TO RECIEVE MATERIALS AND TRAINING FROM THE PERSON WHO SPONSORS YOU! SUBWAY FRANCHISES CHARGE OVER $100,000 TO RECIEVE MATERIALS AND TRAINING FROM THE PERSON (SUBWAY) WHO SPONSORS YOU!
IF I OPEN A SUBWAY FRANCHISE…..AND I FAIL…..I WILL NOT PLAY VICTIM………LIKE MOST PEOPLE ON THIS SITE.
IF I GET INVOLVED WITH AMBIT ENERGY AND I FAIL……I WILL NOT PLAY VICTIM………LIKE MOST PEOPLE ON THIS SITE.
I GUESS IF AMBIT ENERGY CHARGED CONSULTANTS $42,900.00…..IT WOULD THEN BE CONSIDERED LEGIT?
HOW CAN AMBIT ENERGY GIVE US:
1. TRAINING: VIA – SPONSOR, WEB-TRAINING, EVENTS.
2. MATERIALS: VIA – BOX OF BOOKS, PAMPHLETS, BINDERS.
FOR FREE? ……NOTHING IS FREE!
3 types of People on this site:
1. People who never did AMBIT ENERGY
2. People who failed at AMBIT ENERGY
3. People who are succeeding at AMBIT ENERGY
dont listen to the first 2……because people who never did Ambit are ignorant…..and because people who failed at Ambit are failures.
Just imagine if you attempted to play GOLF….and you took advice from
1. People who never played GOLF
2. People who Failed at GOLF
Listen to success….listen to people who are having success!
Remember: The federal Trade Commission is a Governement agency.
If they say Ambit Energy is Legit…..its LEGIT.
I just wanted to say that I joined ambit a few months ago and my customers are saving money, and they are happy about it. I never intended to make alot of money with this company but I did recover my
investment. I think people are lying about Ambit on this website. Ambit energy has a written savings guarantee. So why are people making up stories? and why are people saying its a scam? Its a business! When you go the Con-Ed website, Ambit is located on their switch and save list.
I was concerned when my brother Jason saw this site pop up on google, so I wanted to put my two cents in. Im proud of my brother and his accomplishments with Ambit. He was sitting around collecting Obama’s
extended unemployment checks. It was nice to see him get off the couch and have excitement with Ambit, and end his weekly paychecks from the government “Welfare system”. Keep up the good work Jason!
If it wasnt for Ambit…..he would be sitting around contributing to the transformation of this country into a socialized state. GO FREE MARKET-PLACE!!!
Google :
1. Verizon Wireless Scam
2. Walmart Scam
3. Burger King Scam
4. Anything SCAM….
The bottom line is this: People who have a problem with AMBIT…have a problem with CAPITALISM…..PERIOD. Every organizational structure in business is shaped like a Pyramid. The only difference in Direct Selling is that those who are sponsored have the same opportunity to leverage others the way the C.E.O does of every organization….and the fairness in Ambit is that….I can sponsor you….and you can make more money than I can. For anyone who is new to Ambit……or looking for a QUALIFIED OPINION: GOOGLE: BRILLIANT COMPENSATION
DR. CHARLES KING – HARVARD PH.D TEACHES NETWORK MARKETING
AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS AT CHICAGO.
DONT LISTEN TO THESE UNQUALIFIED “OPINIONS”! DO REAL RESEARCH: READING A BLOG….AND CALLING IT RESEARCH IS BEYOND IGNORANCE.
ONE MORE THING:
AMBIT ENERGY WILL BREAK GOOGLES RECORD OF ZERO DOLLARS TO 1 BILLION DOLLARS!!! SOMETIME IN 2011…..AT THAT TIME…..
U.S.A TODAY, WALL STREET JOURNAL, MAINSTREAM MEDIA, WILL ALL
RECOGNIZE AMBIT ENERGY AS THE FASTEST GROWING COMPANY IN THE HISTORY OF THE U.S.A!!!!!
WHERE WILL YOU BE IN 1 YEAR?
WILL YOUR LIFE CHANGE THAT MUCH IF YOURE NOT WITH AMBIT?
WILL YOUR EXISTING JOB GIVE YOU “CHANGE” FOR THE BETTER IN THE NEXT YEAR?
DOCUMENTATION BEATS CONVERSATION 24/7/365
I actually called the Federal Trade Commission last month. Ambit Energy is not a scam. I saw a write up on another website telling those to call the FTC. Thanks again!
Hey Joe, just so you know buddy:
1) when you type in all caps, that is web etiguette saying you are yelling… there is no need to yell here, that is rude
2) second, Ambit said that in 2009 they would break the google record, and also in 2010 and now you say 2011. that’s funny
you should spend more time working on your friends and family rather than ranting here… though we do appreciate the free content.
why not give us your ambit $25 per month website addy so we can monitor how long it takes you to fail out of the Ambit opportunity?
just sayin…
hey Jimmy, read the article, it’s not a scam in the traditional sense. It is a scam because of the senior consultants and above who tell you to use relationships with friends and family to build your business and if they refuse, you are to tell them that “our relationship is gonna change since you said no”
The man who said this in front of dozens of people in Illinois and who says this often on team calls, is a black fella and a “Bishop” from Texas. He is a big time leader in Ambit and I guess the Lord has said it’s ok to leverage family and friends to make money in his religion.
THAT is the scam my friends. SCAM!!!
Scammed said”
“moose, do you know how stupid you sound? drink some more of the ambit scam koolaid eh? first off, I think Illinois is only offering 1% savings right now, but even so, everything else you mention is all about YOU and what YOU can get by pushing your family and friends to switch their natural gas to ambit energy. yousee, the ambit scam is that you people are all about making your money and the actual natural has service means nothing. it’s all about you right moose knuckles?”
Poor Scammy…you know ***very little***, about Ambit and offering no substance. Since you get so emotional about people getting scammed, why not focus on those who had been truly scammed; like Bernie Madoff and the Wall Streeter scamming people of millions of dollars of their hard earned money to point that they had to sell their homes and processions. Some were even homeless because of him.
Scammy, $456 to join ambit is a drop in the bucket for me; and this week, I am offically an Independent Consultant I’ll be making all my money back by the end of next week by simply helping people save money off their energy bills alone (Nevermind recruiting others to do the same, that will come later). No cost to switch and it won’t inconvience them ( I love it when I say that).
So keep on crying while making money, son. When you’re ready to change your mind, let me know. HA!
DG–then let’s do some math.
Go ahead and calc level one 50 customers (the ones you get yourself) and tell me how much you will make per month. Go ahead smart guy, I will check your math for you when you are done.
We’ll see how much I know about Ambit.
Hey Joe, just so you know buddy:
1) when you type in all caps, that is web etiguette saying you are yelling… there is no need to yell here, that is rude
2) second, Ambit said that in 2009 they would break the google record, and also in 2010 and now you say 2011. that’s funny
you should spend more time working on your friends and family rather than ranting here… though we do appreciate the free content.
why not give us your ambit $25 per month website addy so we can monitor how long it takes you to fail out of the Ambit opportunity?
just sayin…
I agree that Jason using caps Scammy; however, with one execption: You’re just simply too ignorant to hear useful information in the first place.
you have not ben around long DG, but Ambit has been saying they’d beat Google now for over 2 years. LOL that is an old line and every time they say it they are lying… it’s too late for them to beat Google’s record and people that believe that are drinking the Koolaid!
Scammy said
“DG–then let’s do some math.
Go ahead and calc level one 50 customers (the ones you get yourself) and tell me how much you will make per month. Go ahead smart guy, I will check your math for you when you are done.
We’ll see how much I know about Ambit.”
Ha! You slay me! Why do I need 50 customers when I can make my money back with only 15 people with electric and natural gas? (BTW, I’m from New York State where Ambit markets both of these with 7.7 million potential customers.) Another thing, you only need 20 customers to qualified for six levels (let along the all bonuses they paid out). That’s is were you make serious money. IT’S CALLED LEVERAGE BABY!
but you, DG, said you were not concerned with getting other people in as consultants. You were just gonna get customers.
And it ain’t that easy to get more than about 4 or 5 customers.
in fact, gimme your website addy and I will monitor it and see how long before you stop paying and they shut it down. I give it less than 6 months.
up for it big mouth scammer?
you have not ben around long DG, but Ambit has been saying they’d beat Google now for over 2 years. LOL that is an old line and every time they say it they are lying… it’s too late for them to beat Google’s record and people that believe that are drinking the Koolaid!
Who cares what you think son. You must be either sick or lonely listening to your broke relatives and friends in telling you to stay away from Ambit. BOO, HOO, HOO, HOO!
I’ll tell you what scammy; Just to let you know that We’re currently in 3 states, with 15 million potential customers with an 3% marketing penetration; with more states to be open soon. We are helping people save money off their bills and they can get FREE ENERGY by referring others in the service if they want to. Name one other company besides Ambit offering FREE ENERGY? I don’t think so.
You just keep on being a town crier while we help people save money, make money or both. ; )